Nitrate Laurel & Hardy print on eBay

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Re: Nitrate Laurel & Hardy print on eBay

PostFri Jan 19, 2018 6:35 pm

Hamilton's Grandson wrote:Thanks Annichen for the information. I agree there should be a better way of obtaining information.

I use very ocassionally for short silent films, use "Treasures from the Film Archives by Magliozzi (1988), but it could use some updating and just gives the producer, director, country of origin, and perhaps the Archive if known.

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It also only lists what was in their archives as of 1988. It would be great to see what they have managed to collect since then.
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PostTue Feb 13, 2018 3:29 pm

Here we go again: https://www.ebay.com/sch/mirhop/m.html? ... 7675.l2562

Interestingly, the Tillie print seems to consist of sound and silent material. Both look rather dupey, though.
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PostTue Feb 13, 2018 4:30 pm

The keystone restorations used multiple source for Tillie, and I think most were not original prints.]This one looks like a print made from a old internegative.

The Live Ghost (1934) looks like a original print, with good contrast and fine shadow details. Probably very sharp. Maybe it worth to be checked if it's better than the official surviving materials.

Is the same seller as before ???
Maybe some relative of hin was a film collector that passed away, and now he is selling the collection.

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andybenz wrote:Here we go again: https://www.ebay.com/sch/mirhop/m.html? ... 7675.l2562"

Interestingly, the Tillie print seems to consist of sound and silent material. Both look rather dupey, though.
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Re: Nitrate Laurel & Hardy print on eBay

PostTue Feb 13, 2018 6:53 pm

Same seller as before. Likes to use the word "Rare".
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PostWed Feb 14, 2018 4:31 am

Someone should talk with hin, ask about his collection or if he have knowledge about old movies, about lost films...

Hamilton's Grandson wrote:Same seller as before. Likes to use the word "Rare".
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PostWed Feb 14, 2018 9:01 am

Frustrating. Maybe one of his talkies is a phonetic foreign language version.
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PostFri Feb 16, 2018 10:00 pm

Hamilton's Grandson wrote:Same seller as before. Likes to use the word "Rare".

When you can buy 80-100+ year old nitrate prints at Barnes & Noble, that's when he should stop using the term!
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Re: Nitrate Laurel & Hardy print on eBay

PostSat Feb 17, 2018 5:10 am

Sorry to disagree a bit, but a Keystone's Chaplin (with hin in keystone cop uniform) lost film was found in a antiques fair. And a 16mm Keystone film which the finale (a dozen seconds that was lost) was found on eBay.

These Laurel&Hardy original prints are rare, despite the film title itself don't be rare. Some probably have better image quality than the oficial surviving archive elements.

Many Laurel&Hardy talkies was duped for re-release that go and go..., making negatives and sometimes even original prints in good shape, difficult to find.

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Hamilton's Grandson wrote:Same seller as before. Likes to use the word "Rare".

When you can buy 80-100+ year old nitrate prints at Barnes & Noble, that's when he should stop using the term!
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Re: Nitrate Laurel & Hardy print on eBay

PostSat Feb 17, 2018 6:10 am

The videos I saw, and now check on youtube, for The Live Ghost(1934) have a annoying flicker on the left of the screen, and look a bit duped, like a somwhat washed contrast loook, probably a internegative. Unless some archive have a oficial better surving print, this print from eBay it's probably better, considering it's the same version and not foreign version.
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PostSat Feb 17, 2018 10:34 am

All Darc wrote:Sorry to disagree a bit, but a Keystone's Chaplin (with hin in keystone cop uniform) lost film was found in a antiques fair. And a 16mm Keystone film which the finale (a dozen seconds that was lost) was found on eBay.

These Laurel&Hardy original prints are rare, despite the film title itself don't be rare. Some probably have better image quality than the oficial surviving archive elements.

Tommy Stathes wrote:
Hamilton's Grandson wrote:Same seller as before. Likes to use the word "Rare".

When you can buy 80-100+ year old nitrate prints at Barnes & Noble, that's when he should stop using the term!


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Re: Nitrate Laurel & Hardy print on eBay

PostSat Feb 17, 2018 3:45 pm

OOPS... I was quoting Hamilton's Grandson, but got your post together. Sorry...

By the way, the colorized version, despite very soft focus, nearly blur, do not have the flicker from the other video transfer. SInce it's a colorization from 80's, I supose it haven't how remeve flicker back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN5jLxtUSrA

Maybe the best surviving film material in archive, be a original print (as the one on eBay), or a good preservation master, fine grain.

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PostSun Feb 18, 2018 7:40 am

He's got 3 more listed now. So let's say you win one of these. It has additional footage, never known to exist or something. What would you do? Do you just post it on the net? Or send it to a company like Kino for their next release? Could they add it to an already existing dvd, for people who purchase it in the future? Would they do that? For that matter, if you found the missing footage of one of the incomplete films on one of Ben Model's releases, would that be possible? I am just asking because I really am wondering exactly what would be done if someone buys this and finds something interesting.
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PostSun Feb 18, 2018 9:12 am

There is a huge Laurel & Hardy talkies film restoration project, managed by Scott Macqueen I'm I remamber well. The Buyer could contact hin.
Or we should contact hin now.
Who have his email ???



https://www.cinema.ucla.edu/support/laurel-and-hardy

Brock Davis wrote:He's got 3 more listed now. So let's say you win one of these. It has additional footage, never known to exist or something. What would you do? Do you just post it on the net? Or send it to a company like Kino for their next release? Could they add it to an already existing dvd, for people who purchase it in the future? Would they do that? For that matter, if you found the missing footage of one of the incomplete films on one of Ben Model's releases, would that be possible? I am just asking because I really am wondering exactly what would be done if someone buys this and finds something interesting.
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Re: Nitrate Laurel & Hardy print on eBay

PostSun Feb 18, 2018 12:22 pm

I guess I was thinking of the Keaton print and that extra footage that guy found of The Blacksmith a couple years ago. I know some of it was uploaded to YouTube in a very blurry copy, but has it ever been cleaned up and inserted into the film on a release? If this version of "The Paleface has something extra, is there a way to get it into a release, and will we have to wait for years and buy yet another complete set of his shorts?
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