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PostWed Apr 05, 2017 7:58 pm

http://www.metronews.ca/entertainment/2017/04/05/box-of-old-movies-recovered-from-eaton-s-store-in-1940s-contains-lost-film.html

Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s contains 'lost' film

A scene from the silent film

University of Toronto's Media Commons

A scene from the silent film "Secrets of the Night" is shown in this undated handout photo.
By: Victoria Ahearn The Canadian Press Published on Wed Apr 05 2017

TORONTO — As a kid in Winnipeg, Richard Scott used to huddle in the basement with his family and watch 1920s-era silent films projected onto a bedsheet hung up with clothespins.

His dad, who worked at Eaton's, acquired the 16-millimetre films when the local department store discontinued its rental service and got rid of its stock in the late 1940s.

"We had piles of these movie tins," Scott recalled. "In total there were 15 feature movies, but none of them were the big-name actors of the time. They weren't Charlie Chaplin or Buster Keaton."

Still, one of them has turned out to be a gem.

"Secrets of the Night," which the Library of Congress in the United States had declared as one of the thousands of "lost" movies of the silent-film era, was among the titles in the Scott family collection.

"It's, dare I say, more than rare — it is unique," said Brock Silversides, director of the University of Toronto's Media Commons department, which received the film and many others from the Scott family.

Scott, who is retired, said the films had been kept in their original tins in an insulated box in his basement in Mississauga, Ont., for about 30 years.

When he started downsizing, he reached out to the university, which has since restored and digitized the copy of "Secrets of the Night," a 1924 murder-mystery comedy starring James Kirkwood, Madge Bellamy and ZaSu Pitts.

Last week, the school organized a special screening of the film with a pianist providing the soundtrack.

"We're the only public institution that actually has the full film," said Silversides, who noted only a partial copy of the film was known to be in a private collection.

Overall, the entire Scott collection comprises lower-budget, "good, solid films that give a wonderful idea of filmmaking during the silent era," said Silversides.

"They're extremely professional, they're good lighting, good editing, good acting, just good feature films."

Scott said he's "thrilled" that the films have found a new home and will be appreciated.

"They haven't been doing anything here for us," said Scott.

"It's better that the films be viewed and restored than have them just continue to deteriorate."
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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostThu Apr 06, 2017 5:47 am

Imagine (and hope) there are still more "lost" movies out there. Given the newly digitalized 1924 silent is possibly one of the original negative Universal silents destroyed during their ill-advised housecleaning, this is really good news.
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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostThu Apr 06, 2017 7:05 am

There's always a great deal of rejoicing when new lost films are found. I always come back to the same point and that's access. Hopefully this film can see some form of release (I'd Kickstart it!)
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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostThu Apr 06, 2017 7:35 am

Since it's 16mm, it sounds like a Universal Show-at-Home of which no prints were previously known to survive. It's still possible that THE CHINESE PARROT (Paul Leni, 1927) could turn up, since it appeared in the S-a-H catalogue.
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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostThu Apr 06, 2017 10:21 am

This may be the closest we come to The Chinese Parrot.

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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostThu Apr 06, 2017 10:59 am

Robert Moulton wrote:This may be the closest we come to The Chinese Parrot.

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That photo looks like it was a rejected cover shot for the "Homer and Jethro Joke Book".

And now I'll sit back and wait all of two seconds for someone to pop up and yell "I REMEMBER THEM!!!"

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PostThu Apr 06, 2017 11:51 am

Actually, the film was and still is available from Grapevine Video, also presumably from a 16mm print. The article makes it sound like the Grapevine copy may not be complete (although it is listed at 75 minutes). Regardless, the film is now held by an archive and viewing copies may be available from two sources now.
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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostFri Apr 07, 2017 1:02 am

silentfilm wrote:Actually, the film was and still is available from Grapevine Video, also presumably from a 16mm print. The article makes it sound like the Grapevine copy may not be complete (although it is listed at 75 minutes). Regardless, the film is now held by an archive and viewing copies may be available from two sources now.


Apparently the previously known print is missing the opening credits and three scenes near the end. So, its most fortunate that a complete print has been found.
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Jim Roots wrote:That photo looks like it was a rejected cover shot for the "Homer and Jethro Joke Book".

And now I'll sit back and wait all of two seconds for someone to pop up and yell "I REMEMBER THEM!!!"

I've got seven or eight of their LPs, so it might as well be me....
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s.w.a.c. wrote:
Jim Roots wrote:That photo looks like it was a rejected cover shot for the "Homer and Jethro Joke Book".

And now I'll sit back and wait all of two seconds for someone to pop up and yell "I REMEMBER THEM!!!"

I've got seven or eight of their LPs, so it might as well be me....


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PostTue Apr 11, 2017 1:26 pm

I saw Jethro Burns in either the late seventies or early eighties at The Great American Music Hall in San Francisco. He was a serious mandolin player.....in other words the real deal.
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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostTue Apr 11, 2017 2:09 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:
Jim Roots wrote:That photo looks like it was a rejected cover shot for the "Homer and Jethro Joke Book".

And now I'll sit back and wait all of two seconds for someone to pop up and yell "I REMEMBER THEM!!!"

I've got seven or eight of their LPs, so it might as well be me....


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PostWed Apr 26, 2017 4:49 am

and the obvious question.... it said 14 films were found. And they are?????
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Madge Bellamy! Woop woop!
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Tom Tyler???
Petition: Turner Enter./Warner Bros: Please digitalize Tom Tyler's FBO silent film westerns

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PostWed Apr 26, 2017 7:06 pm

Jim Roots wrote:
s.w.a.c. wrote:
Jim Roots wrote:That photo looks like it was a rejected cover shot for the "Homer and Jethro Joke Book".

And now I'll sit back and wait all of two seconds for someone to pop up and yell "I REMEMBER THEM!!!"

I've got seven or eight of their LPs, so it might as well be me....


"Cornfucious say!"

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We learned to light fires by rubbin sticks together
But if we catch a girl then we'll set the woods ablaze"

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Yours for bigger and better silents,

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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostThu Apr 27, 2017 7:32 am

William D. Ferry wrote:I'll stop now before I start quoting "Pal-Yat-Chee"...

Will you get itchy & scratchy?

I had no idea Jethro Burns was a serious musician until I found a record by jazz violinist Joe Venuti at my local library back in the early '80s, and he was picking up a storm in the group of Nashville cats Joe was recording with. I think I made a cassette of the album, but only lawd knows where that is now.

And now I'll be singing "Don't let the stars get in your eyes if you have water on the brain..." for the rest of the day.
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Re: Box of old movies recovered from Eaton's store in 1940s

PostThu Apr 27, 2017 10:18 am

s.w.a.c. wrote:
I had no idea Jethro Burns was a serious musician until I found a record by jazz violinist Joe Venuti at my local library back in the early '80s, and he was picking up a storm in the group of Nashville cats Joe was recording with. I think I made a cassette of the album, but only lawd knows where that is now.

And now I'll be singing "Don't let the stars get in your eyes if you have water on the brain..." for the rest of the day.


It's probably on YouTube. You should check out this "Mandolin Summit" special with Burns, Tiny Moore and Johnny Gimble: https://youtu.be/jEwnnXPtlMI

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