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KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostTue Aug 01, 2017 9:23 am

4K 1080p restorations of SHERLOCK JR., THE GENERAL and STEAMBOAT BILL JR.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0748YD6HM/
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostTue Aug 01, 2017 2:16 pm

Looking forward to this! As well as the new restorations, that list of special features sounds really good.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostTue Aug 01, 2017 2:53 pm

Region 2 and Blu-Ray only - correct??
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostWed Aug 02, 2017 7:23 am

I take it these are the Cohen restorations that was done a few years ago for the General and Steamboat Bill. At least they are getting a release but I'm hoping they are released in the US as well. It's a shame that Eureka's blu-rays are region locked.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostWed Aug 02, 2017 11:52 am

Go region-free and never look back. I've been region-free since 2001.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostWed Aug 02, 2017 2:10 pm

Likewise! Cost is no longer a reason, when one can pick up a unit for the price of a few DVDs. It opens up a new world, literally.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostWed Aug 02, 2017 2:16 pm

Danny Burk wrote:Likewise! Cost is no longer a reason, when one can pick up a unit for the price of a few DVDs. It opens up a new world, literally.


True, and with the current exchange rate, it is often cheaper to buy from Amazon UK than US. However, it will be a while until I buy any more Keaton blu-rays.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostWed Aug 02, 2017 4:33 pm

camaro wrote:I take it these are the Cohen restorations that was done a few years ago for the General and Steamboat Bill. At least they are getting a release but I'm hoping they are released in the US as well. It's a shame that Eureka's blu-rays are region locked.


This is how I take it as well (fingers crossed). Region locking isn't an issue for those who've upgraded to region/zone free players. In fact, sets like this probably motivate folks still on the picket fence (ouch!) about universal players.

From a packaging standpoint, I have to say the individual BD's in the 2nd & 3rd images look very impressive (luv the choice of period art). If the product design and extras are any indication, this set will be top notch.

I'm hoping there'll be a U.S. release as well, but taking into account KINO's recent releases of The General and Steamboat Bill Jr. ...which appear to have been rushed out to reassert market dominance of their prior Keaton restorations... it may be a long wait for a competing "definitive" upgrade.

Food for thought: Will a U.S. Cohen produced release, (3 disc set or individually) have these scores, extras and similar presentation to the MoC release? Probably, but who knows. To be crystal clear on this, I'm a huge supporter of both KINO and Eureka's efforts. That said, as I'm always looking for the best product and packaging my pre-order is in the queue.

PS: Browsing for more info from Eureka I learned that this set is supposedly being limited to 3000 copies, so if you're mulling it over I wouldn't advise waiting too long. Here's the link...

https://www.eurekavideo.co.uk/news/lavi ... -2017-line

Danny Burk wrote:Likewise! Cost is no longer a reason, when one can pick up a unit for the price of a few DVDs. It opens up a new world, literally.


Absolutely! I'm almost embarrassed to admit that I'm thinking about upgrading my current universal BD/DVD player to one that can upconvert to 4K.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostThu Aug 03, 2017 1:23 pm

R. Cat wrote:This is how I take it as well (fingers crossed). Region locking isn't an issue for those who've upgraded to region/zone free players. In fact, sets like this probably motivate folks still on the picket fence (ouch!) about universal players.


I just bought a refurbished (though it looked new) Region Free Sony Blu Ray player on eBay for $75. It's from 220 Electronics and they had "Make an offer" and I did and they took it. Free shipping to boot! I still have the Oppo region free DVD player I got at a thrift shop and will probably use that to save wear and tear on the BD player.

Per the Keaton set; I'm at the point where I'm wondering how many times I need to own copies of these films. Unless they have the superior audio tracks shown on AMC years ago (especially on Sherlock Jr. and Go-West) I just can't see myself buying them. I most recently bought a copy of The General for the Joe Hisashi score, which was nice on its own sounded more Howl's Moving Castle than the Great Stone Face.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostThu Aug 03, 2017 1:39 pm

The only reason I put up the question - and, yes, I have a region free player, but... - is because I only have a DVD player, but have as yet not upgraded to Blu-Ray.
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Re: KEATON BOX SET FROM EUREKA COMING SOON

PostThu Aug 03, 2017 2:43 pm

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R. Cat wrote:This is how I take it as well (fingers crossed). Region locking isn't an issue for those who've upgraded to region/zone free players. In fact, sets like this probably motivate folks still on the picket fence (ouch!) about universal players.


I just bought a refurbished (though it looked new) Region Free Sony Blu Ray player on eBay for $75. It's from 220 Electronics and they had "Make an offer" and I did and they took it. Free shipping to boot! I still have the Oppo region free DVD player I got at a thrift shop and will probably use that to save wear and tear on the BD player.

Per the Keaton set; I'm at the point where I'm wondering how many times I need to own copies of these films. Unless they have the superior audio tracks shown on AMC years ago (especially on Sherlock Jr. and Go-West) I just can't see myself buying them. I most recently bought a copy of The General for the Joe Hisashi score, which was nice on its own sounded more Howl's Moving Castle than the Great Stone Face.


This is always a consideration, and none of us want to feel like Pavlovian rodents trapped in a hamster wheel of despair. Silent film fans are often accused of being a bunch of double, triple, sometimes quadruple-dipping OCD completists and if push comes to shove, I resemble that remark. :lol:

My rule of thumb is to gauge upgrade value by the overall package and rewatch potential. With Keaton, I can check that one off as I'm likely to watch his best films numerous times. The other factors ...for me at least... are the restoration quality (best HD remastered version) along with period appropriate music (orchestral score being my strongest preferrence), followed by extras (bonus materials, documentaries, interviews, etc.) and presentation (books, program, pamphlets, etc.).

Part of my excitement with this Eureka release and several of the upcoming KINO silent film restorations is the fact that I'm in the process of upgrading my primary video display to 4K along with other associated gear (HD-BD player, HD receiver etc.). This will allow my wife and I to enjoy the best remastered versions of various genres of films.

So, yes, buying new restorations is a personal upgrade choice (...buying the White Album all over again as Tommy Lee Jone's said in MiB). Everyone has to look at these releases in the context of one's current or future playback system. If your video delivery system is over 10 years old, the improvement an HD remastered film will present may be less obvious. It doesn't mean films released on DVD or early BD are obsolete, but better remasters are intended to increase enjoyment coinciding with improved display technology.

Apologies for diverging from the topic a bit. My main point is that I'm quite excited about this release and hopefully these upgraded 4K remasters will be the definitive presentations of Keaton's most popular films. If these are indeed the Cohen restorations, I'm pretty sure that they will have been sourced from entirely different film elements than prior KINO releases.

R Michael Pyle wrote:The only reason I put up the question - and, yes, I have a region free player, but... - is because I only have a DVD player, but have as yet not upgraded to Blu-Ray.


The set is listed as three discs, so yes, all BD, not DVD.

Combined dual format releases are gradually being phased out as more folks move to BD and multi-format players.

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