Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 6:20 am

Mr. Hefner was also a long-time fan of horror, science-fiction and dirty pictures.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/obit ... front&_r=0" target="_blank

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 12:47 pm

In our little world, he will be forever appreciated for his dedication to classic films.

My husband, seeing how many documentaries & restorations have Mr. Hefners name on them has repeatedly asked, " So why do you get to buy publications from Hugh Heffner, & I don't.
I generally tell him the ones I bought we're for sharing with the whole family & he could enjoy them at will.

Farewell Mr. Hefner. Hopefully you are finally meeting Clara Bow
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 1:21 pm

I'm curious how heaven could possibly be any better than Hefner's mortal experience?

Still, a tip o' the hat to Hef and his good works. Great articles.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 5:30 pm

oldposterho wrote:I'm curious how heaven could possibly be any better than Hefner's mortal experience?


Wow, I sure don't see that equivalency.

To paraphrase the great line from CITIZEN KANE:

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostThu Sep 28, 2017 6:04 pm

Despite growing up with PLAYBOY, the first thing I thought of when I heard his obituary on the radio today was his many contributions to film preservation. A man with a surprisingly varied legacy...
Yours for bigger and better silents,

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 5:11 am

Well, thanks to him, I sure saw some previously unexposed sides to Stella Stevens, Barbi Benton, Joan Collins and Terry Moore. Yikes! :wink:
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 8:59 pm

Saint-Just wrote:Good Riddance To An Abusive Creep

https://static.currentaffairs.org/2017/ ... sive-creep" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

LOL!

A woman's tell-all about how shocked she was that moving in with a guy who ran a skin-magazine was actually - wait-for-it - a pig!
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 9:26 pm

Not much to laugh at in the reporting in that article.

He comes across as what I always sensed: a juvenile, and a stunted one at that, in a increasingly aging shell. PETER Pan, indeed...

(P.S. - His widow explains that misuse of Viagra left him deaf.)
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 9:43 pm

wich2 wrote:Not much to laugh at in the reporting in that article.


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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostFri Sep 29, 2017 11:44 pm

wich2 wrote:P.S. - His widow explains that misuse of Viagra left him deaf.


Maybe that's why he appreciated SILENT films!
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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Red Bartlett wrote:
wich2 wrote:Not much to laugh at in the reporting in that article.


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I guess... if egotistical and arrested development sexist tyrants are one's idea of charming chuckle fodder.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 5:28 am

"Hey, I don't need a real job. I'm going to live at the Playboy mansion and be treated like a queen." :lol:
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 12:53 pm

CoffeeDan wrote:
wich2 wrote:P.S. - His widow explains that misuse of Viagra left him deaf.


Maybe that's why he appreciated SILENT films!


It wasn't misuse. Viagra contains elements that are known to cause hearing loss, no matter how correctly you use it.

That he chose keeping his erections over keeping his hearing says quite a lot about him.

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 4:40 pm

Sorry, pardon? Couldn't hear you.

Jim Roots wrote:
CoffeeDan wrote:
wich2 wrote:P.S. - His widow explains that misuse of Viagra left him deaf.


Maybe that's why he appreciated SILENT films!


It wasn't misuse. Viagra contains elements that are known to cause hearing loss, no matter how correctly you use it.

That he chose keeping his erections over keeping his hearing says quite a lot about him.

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 4:51 pm

Jim Roots wrote:It wasn't misuse. Viagra contains elements that are known to cause hearing loss, no matter how correctly you use it. That he chose keeping his erections over keeping his hearing says quite a lot about him.
Jim


It does. Rather like the case of Rush Limbaugh, whose hearing loss, too, is due to Viagra & OxyContin.

Both are designed for use with doctor supervision/patient intelligence. Hence, my use of "misuse."

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PostSat Sep 30, 2017 6:58 pm

Hugh Hefner, despite his film restoration work, left the following legacy--according to my observations and life in the last 60 years:

As a young man growing up in the 1960s, like all my friends, I bought into his "Playboy Philosophy" that warped the expectations and attitudes of men for many decades! Thanks to his slick magazine portrayals of near perfect women,
we gauged ALL women we saw to that "norm". Thanks--partially anyway--to that "philosophy" downright IMMORALITY, ADULTERY and sexual addiction became the most common male behavior---to this day. Playboy was the first magazine to bring "girlie pictures" out of the shadows into mainstream acceptance. The result I saw and lived with for over 5 decades
is divorce, broken homes, unreasonable expectations and a predator mentality among men.

Anyone over 60 can see how America has gone to a mostly immoral society--and in the last few years worse.

There is a Higher Power who will hold us all accountable for bringing our beloved America to the point of a modern Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 7:12 pm

Marr&Colton wrote:Hugh Hefner, despite his film restoration work, left the following legacy--according to my observations and life in the last 60 years:

As a young man growing up in the 1960s, like all my friends, I bought into his "Playboy Philosophy" that warped the expectations and attitudes of men for many decades! Thanks to his slick magazine portrayals of near perfect women,
we gauged ALL women we saw to that "norm". Thanks--partially anyway--to that "philosophy" downright IMMORALITY, ADULTERY and sexual addiction became the most common male behavior---to this day. Playboy was the first magazine to bring "girlie pictures" out of the shadows into mainstream acceptance. The result I saw and lived with for over 5 decades
is divorce, broken homes, unreasonable expectations and a predator mentality among men.

Anyone over 60 can see how America has gone to a mostly immoral society--and in the last few years worse.

There is a Higher Power who will hold us all accountable for bringing our beloved America to the point of a modern Sodom and Gomorrah.


I would be unhappy to discover that any of my four nieces was going to be spending time at the Playboy Mansion. Still, to blame Hefner for the breakdown in American morality seems to me akin to shooting the messenger.

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 8:06 pm

To be sure Mr. Hefner wasn't the sole cause of the breakdown of the family and morality in our nation,
BUT he was a trend-setter. I recall vividly how practically every guy I knew from the 1960s and 70s were big fans of the
playboy mystique and worship of attractive females.....but Hugh Hefner was the one who fired up popular culture back in
the early 1950s when he began his magazine.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostSat Sep 30, 2017 9:10 pm

Marr&Colton wrote:
Anyone over 60 can see how America has gone to a mostly immoral society--and in the last few years worse.

There is a Higher Power who will hold us all accountable for bringing our beloved America to the point of a modern Sodom and Gomorrah.


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PostSat Sep 30, 2017 9:37 pm

I would have thought that ALL the elements that would go towards creating a "Sodom and Gomorrah" have always been there. Perhaps before Mr. Heffner brought them to the surface in what might be termed a brazen honesty by some, they were lurking behind the scenes. People have always indulged in behaviour that society as a whole from time to time has disapproved of. We have also come to see that many of those casting disapproval were out and out hypocrites. Luckily today we are moving towards a society that is more open, less restricting and honest with itself. If Mr. Heffner has been somewhat responsible for making a contribution to that, then I am thankful.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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Remember--not everyone has the same opinion and life experiences.

I repeat---Hugh Hefner wasn't the sole cause of social degradation--He was a TREND-SETTER....and a very effective one.

As one who lived through the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s up to 2017, I see nothing good about the moral degradation of American and English-Speaking societies. I went along with the crowd for years and I reaped what I sowed.

I hate controversy, but also hate the glorification of immoral philosophies and people.

I expected flack for having the nerve to actually believe there is a God and unchanging moral standards.

BTW---that is a terrible picture---Christ was Jewish and didn't have long hair despite artistic and traditional misconceptions
over the centuries.
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Marr&Colton wrote:Remember--not everyone has the same opinion and life experiences.

I repeat---Hugh Hefner wasn't the sole cause of social degradation--He was a TREND-SETTER....and a very effective one.

As one who lived through the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s up to 2017, I see nothing good about the moral degradation of American and English-Speaking societies......


I lived through the same decades but with me you can also add in the 1950's.

No I don't have the same opinions as you do - but we are both free to express them, which we have done.

We could go on discussing to and fro ad infinitum, but I don't really think that the subject is one that should clutter up a film discussion forum.
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PostSun Oct 01, 2017 4:44 am

I agree, Donald.....this is not the place to debate this subject Ad Infinitum.....getting carried away....

BTW...I too lived through the 50s...as a child born in 1947 so as a 70 year old I now see my own mortality clearer.
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Well noones perfect
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PostSun Oct 01, 2017 2:34 pm

I'm just appreciating no longer having to see him on our banner.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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Marr&Colton wrote:Playboy was the first magazine to bring "girlie pictures" out of the shadows into mainstream acceptance.


He helped to bring something that had been hidden in the shadows for centuries into the light. And certainly in a classier way than some of the subsequent "hardcore" options that came about in later years. I can't say I'd agree with you that that was a bad thing.

As for the cause of the rise in divorce, I'd credit women's liberation for that, not Playboy magazine. When you give women the option to get out of unfaithful, abusive, unhappy relationships and the means to do so, it is going to happen. 60+ years ago, that wasn't available to them so they suffered in silence.

I am definitely grateful to Hefner's contributions to classic film. I don't always agree with everything my movie friends say or do, but we agree on that front and I am happy to call fellow film enthusiasts friends.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostMon Oct 02, 2017 9:00 am

maliejandra wrote:
Marr&Colton wrote:Playboy was the first magazine to bring "girlie pictures" out of the shadows into mainstream acceptance.


He helped to bring something that had been hidden in the shadows for centuries into the light. And certainly in a classier way than some of the subsequent "hardcore" options that came about in later years. I can't say I'd agree with you that that was a bad thing.

As for the cause of the rise in divorce, I'd credit women's liberation for that, not Playboy magazine. When you give women the option to get out of unfaithful, abusive, unhappy relationships and the means to do so, it is going to happen. 60+ years ago, that wasn't available to them so they suffered in silence.

I am definitely grateful to Hefner's contributions to classic film. I don't always agree with everything my movie friends say or do, but we agree on that front and I am happy to call fellow film enthusiasts friends.


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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

PostMon Oct 02, 2017 9:09 am

He did good, and he did bad.

The link posted above, about now he personally treated many of those around him, keeps that reality in mind. So does this one:

http://gangsterreport.com/federal-drug-probe-almost-crashed-playboy-empire-40-yrs-ago/

Humanity, I can relate to; It's hagiography that I don't like.

As for "The Playboy Philosophy"? That always provoked a chuckle!

Hef would lift "cutting-edge" (!) 75 year-old ideas from folks like Shaw and Wilde, dry all of the wit out of them, rewrite them at three times the length, and convince himself that he was shaping a new world. One where rich 80 year-olds would be giggled at because of the 20 year-old chippies they rented, I guess...

To use a current phrase (from a man currently in a similar relationship) "Sad!"

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