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Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:56 am
by Rodney
Paul E. Gierucki wrote:Sorry for the delay responding, folks. Yes, CineMuseum is only shipping to the US and Canada while it works on a solution to combat the extreme overseas shipping prices. Seriously, the cost to mail the set out of the country is more than that of the set itself. That said, I expect that there will be an alternate solution shortly. Until then, everyone here appreciates your kind patience and understanding.


I have a weird shipping thing where if I want to send a package (say, a silent film calendar) overseas, it's really expensive (like, over $25).

But if someone orders a calendar from overseas through Paypal, the shipping is much cheaper (still expensive, but more like $10.72).

Don't know how Paypal gets the sweetheart deal, probably through automatically standardizing addresses and bar codes; but once when sending a gift to Europe I bought it from myself through Paypal and actually saved money.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:54 pm
by moglia
Paul E. Gierucki wrote:Teaser, Smari. Included in this DVD / BD set is a discount coupon for $5.00 off the Arbuckle Anthology -- which is also on the way!


Nice on both counts!!!

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:15 am
by Metaldams
Looking forward to receiving this soon! The shipping date was I believe yesterday. Will post my thoughts on the film when it arrives.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:41 pm
by moviepas
Don't know how Paypal gets the sweetheart deal, probably through automatically standardizing addresses and bar codes; but once when sending a gift to Europe I bought it from myself through Paypal and actually saved money.

Amazon and Deep Discount get postage deals etc and Mr Trump does not like it and says the US Post Office is going broke supporting those people. I don't agree!!!!! and enjoy a good price for shipping to Australia and fast service because of it. DHL is alo a good choice both use also delivery and price wise.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:49 am
by Roscoe
I got the shipping notification on Sunday. As of Wednesday morning, the tracking number continues to indicate that the item is still en route to a USPS facility.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:20 am
by Rick Lanham
Roscoe wrote:I got the shipping notification on Sunday. As of Wednesday morning, the tracking number continues to indicate that the item is still en route to a USPS facility.


Ditto.

Rick

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:15 am
by Roscoe
And on Thursday, my package has still not arrived with the USPS...

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:36 am
by bigshot
Shipping notice means that he has generated a label. It's probably one guy shipping all these on his kitchen table. He's probably packing them in batches and hauling them to the post office every day.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:47 am
by Roscoe
Point taken, sure, but in that case they should re-consider how they phrase their e-mails. It clearly says "Your Order Has Been Shipped" not "Your Order Is Being Prepared And Will Ship Within The Next Few Days".

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:53 pm
by Rick Lanham
Mine now says: In transit; expected delivery Saturday.

Rick

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:27 pm
by Bob Furem
From where should I be looking for an e-mail confirmation? I haven't seen one yet.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:15 pm
by Paul Penna
Bob Furem wrote:From where should I be looking for an e-mail confirmation? I haven't seen one yet.


My email was from CineMuseum LLC and contained a clickable tracking number.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:19 pm
by Jim Reid
Mine says it should arrive Saturday the 14th.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:15 pm
by Rodney
I remember playing for this film once, "cold," at the Buster Keaton Celebration, because I hadn't had time to pre-screen it.

The improv score went fine, but there's a moment that brings chills to every accompanist's heart: a woman sits down at the piano to play from a piece of sheet music, but we haven't seen the music. The setting was a ranch, so I went with "Oh, Give Me a Home Where the Buffalo Roam." After a couple of shots of playing and singing, we finally see the music: it's "My Old Kentucky Home." I made a swift transition, and a chuckle went around the auditorium among those who saw what I did.

Still, it was a mistake, and brought the audience "out of the film" for a moment.

I have no doubt that this film will have the correct music!

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:34 am
by moviepas
I got an email over 12 hours ago saying it had shipped and was given a tracking number. However, there was a boo-boo. My zip was right but my suburb name was wrong. I noted this on the order autofill form and changed the suburb name to mine but for some reason it still had the wrong suburb name. The name used is at least 30mins from my home of 60 plus years. I only hope the Post Office does not return it to USA from Australia because of the error. I contacted the shipper but no response to date.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:46 am
by Roscoe
Finally updated -- arrival on Friday, then it changed to Monday. So anyway.

Looking forward to seeing this.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:18 am
by Red Bartlett
Rodney wrote:I remember playing for this film once, "cold," at the Buster Keaton Celebration, because I hadn't had time to pre-screen it.

The improv score went fine, but there's a moment that brings chills to every accompanist's heart: a woman sits down at the piano to play from a piece of sheet music, but we haven't seen the music. The setting was a ranch, so I went with "Oh, Give Me a Home Where the Buffalo Roam." After a couple of shots of playing and singing, we finally see the music: it's "My Old Kentucky Home." I made a swift transition, and a chuckle went around the auditorium among those who saw what I did.

Still, it was a mistake, and brought the audience "out of the film" for a moment.

I have no doubt that this film will have the correct music!

LOL Close enough!

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:47 pm
by JLNeibaur
Great movie, beautiful restoration, excellent special features.

Here is my review:

http://jln4151.wixsite.com/jlneibaur-wr ... le-feature

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:56 am
by Roscoe
Paul E. Gierucki wrote:Teaser, Smari. Included in this DVD / BD set is a discount coupon for $5.00 off the Arbuckle Anthology -- which is also on the way!


I looked, but didn't see this in my set.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:44 am
by Red Bartlett
I can't wait to pick this up. I'm going to try and wait for the full Fatty set though...

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:49 am
by Paul Penna
Roscoe wrote:
Paul E. Gierucki wrote:Teaser, Smari. Included in this DVD / BD set is a discount coupon for $5.00 off the Arbuckle Anthology -- which is also on the way!


I looked, but didn't see this in my set.


Me neither.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:20 am
by bigshot
I asked Paul about the coupon on Facebook and he said that he decided not to do a physical coupon. He is keeping track of who ordered The Round Up and will automatically apply the coupon when they buy the Arbuckle box.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:35 pm
by Metaldams
JLNeibaur wrote:Great movie, beautiful restoration, excellent special features.

Here is my review:

http://jln4151.wixsite.com/jlneibaur-wr ... le-feature" target="_blank


Thanks for the wonderful write up.

I just watched THE ROUND UP last night. These pre Kid comedy features fascinate me. It's as if feature comedy hasn't found it's footing yet, yet they're interesting films on their own merit, independent of what came after. Arbuckle shows me here he can play more serious roles relative to what came before and it would be fascinating to see how he would've responded to Chaplin and Lloyd's direction shortly after the scandal. Too bad we'll never know. But yeah, watching this, I'm more inclined to believe he could have made the transition with his ability in a THE ROUND UP to tone down and be serious when needed. Still strange seeing Arbuckle play a comic relief supporting player in a film where he's top billed.

I'm not really a western genre expert by any stretch of the imagination and have never seen a serious feature length silent western, so admittedly my comparisons are limited in that sense. I do feel the restoration and look of the film is absolutely beautiful and I commend you guys and gals who restore this stuff. Thank you. Also thumbs up on the Richard Roberts commentary. I feel like I'm having a beer with the guy learning about the lives of every Hollywood star and big player under the sun in every commentary he does. Always keeping it light and informative.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:54 pm
by fwtep
I got mine and it looks GORGEOUS. The print and transfer is spectacular. I haven't watched it all the way through yet, because of work, so maybe there are parts from other, lesser quality prints, but I don't know. It's well worth getting.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:25 pm
by bigshot
I don't need a comedian to tone down for features. I'll take them straight up like Fields and the Marxes.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:06 am
by Lonesome Luke
bigshot wrote:I don't need a comedian to tone down for features. I'll take them straight up like Fields and the Marxes.

Same here. You don't make better comedy feature films by making them less funny. (That's what serious films are for.) Otherwise, you wouldn't need gag writers.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:35 am
by wich2
Things like Buster's straighter moments in THE GENERAL, and Chaplin's in CITY LIGHTS, are bad?

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:04 pm
by Smari1989
I'd argue that the comedians who succeeded best in features were the ones who realized, fairly early, that a comedy feature is a different animal from shorts, and requires a share of slightly more "serious" moments in order to make room for character development.

Anyway, really looking forward to THE ROUND-UP, should be here soon I hope.

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:04 pm
by bigshot
wich2 wrote:Things like Buster's straighter moments in THE GENERAL, and Chaplin's in CITY LIGHTS, are bad?


Not bad, but I like Sherlock Jr and The Gold Rush better. And to me, Thalberg wasn't a good influence on the Marx Bros. As it was said in a Woody Allen film... "I like your earlier films... when you were funny."

Re: Arbuckle: The Round Up (1920)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 pm
by Metaldams
bigshot wrote:I don't need a comedian to tone down for features. I'll take them straight up like Fields and the Marxes.


When talking about toning down, I simply mean knowing when to play drama and when to play comedy. Of course, I want the pendulum to swing more towards comedy, but as others have stated, Chaplin and Keaton, among others, had both elements in their features very effectively.

In THE ROUND UP, the main issue is Arbuckle gives too much screen time to other characters to move forward with the plot, much like early Abbott and Costello features. But my point about toning down is that he showed he could do drama and possibly would have found that balance with comedy had he been able to make films past 1921.

If you like pure comedy, great, and Paramount Marx Brothers is definitely a place for it, but Fields? Definite drama in his films, especially in YOU'RE TELLING ME (train scene especially), and in the just recently watched RUNNING WILD. Tons of dramatic character development with Fields, yet it never overtakes the comedy.