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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostWed Oct 08, 2014 5:37 am

I'm still holding out hope that Olive will package all the Boop volumes together in one four-disc package, like they did with a bunch of their films noir a while back (although that noir set annoyingly included a title they hadn't issued previously, and I'd already bought two of the four titles as single discs). I doubt there'd be bonus cartoons in such a release given Olive's scant extras on other sets, but something a bit more compact wouldn't hurt.
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostWed Oct 15, 2014 11:05 pm

Anyone know if Olive will be releasing ALL of the Betty Boop cartoons? I have the laserdiscs transferred to DVD. I am tempted to buy the four volumes and stand them up against the DVDs I already have, including PD releases from Walmart and Best Buy, and rather than compare, have them all. But if Olive has no plans to release the rest of the series, I might hold off. I don't buy to upgrade. I buy to have them to watch any time. Buying duplicates is tempting when the quality is improved but the large incentive is the complete run.
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostThu Oct 16, 2014 12:28 pm

They claimed not to be releasing any public domain cartoons. From what I could find out on the internet, Volume 4 appears to be the last one from Olive Films, at least for now.
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostFri Oct 17, 2014 1:18 am

And the laserdisc set wasn't complete either... just "completer".

The image quality and sound on the blu-rays are light years ahead of that botched laserdisc set. No DVNR eating the lines away, the prints are crystal clear, the sound is fuller... The cartoons on the Olive disks are presented much better than the Republic set.
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostSun Jul 16, 2017 10:04 am

Does anyone have the Betty Boop FULL filmography from 1930 to 1939? It doesn't seem to be on Wikipedia. They only have her "Betty Boop" series from mid 1932 to 1939. It begins with #01 - "Stopping The Show"..... #02 - "Bizzy Bee" ... etc.

Anything from 1930, 1931 and 1932 is muddled, and not in order.

However this is what I have so far. Please jump in to correct it if it is wrong. And add if anything is missing?


1 - "Dizzy Dishes" - (Aug 1930)
2- "Barnacle Bill" - (Aug 1930)
3- ''Mysterious Mose'' - (Dec 1930)
4- ''The Bum Bandit'' - (April 1931)
5- ''Any Little Girl That’s A Nice Little Girl'' (April 1931)
6- ''Silly Scandals'' - (May 1931)
7- "Bimbo's Initiation" (July 1931)
8- ''Bimbo's Express'' - (Aug 1931)
9- "Minding The Baby" - (Sept 1931)
10- Kitty From Kansas" (Oct 1931) w Rudy Vallee (NOT sure if this is a Betty Boop movie or not?)
11- "Mask-A-Raid" - (Nov 1931)
12- "Any Rags" -(2 Jan 1932)
13- "Boop-Oop-A-Doop - (16 Jan 1932).
14- "Minnie the Moocher" (11 March 1932)
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostSun Jul 16, 2017 10:53 am

I'm looking in a newspaper archive right now. In 1932, there are mostly articles about Betty Boop kiddy clubs and Helen Kane's lawsuit. I'm not done looking, but did find:

Betty Boop, LTD. June 29, 1932 Advocate (Baton Rouge, LA)
(listed in another paper as “Betty Boop Limited”)
The IMDB calls it "The Betty Boop Limited" and says it was released July 1st.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022666/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" target="_blank" target="_blank

Betty Boop and Bimbo in “A Hunting We Will Go” April 4, 1932 Greensboro Record (Greensboro, NC)
IMDB says it was released April 29, 1932. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022604/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" target="_blank

Jack and the Beanstalk March 10, 1932 Dailey Advocate (Stamford, CT)
IMDB says it was released November 21, 1931. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022009/" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Crazy-Town with Betty Boop and Bimbo from March 25, 1932. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022786/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_11

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It looks like you can find these on IMDB by searching the work of Dave Fleischer, Billy Murray, Mae Questel, etc., so I have to stop now.

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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostSun Jul 16, 2017 12:07 pm

David Alp wrote:Does anyone have the Betty Boop FULL filmography from 1930 to 1939?


You're not finding a complete filmography because she was in Talkartoons, Screen Songs and the Betty Boop series. Most lists just list the Talkartoons and Betty Boop series, not the Screen Songs. It can be hard to determine for sure what is and what isn't a Betty Boop cartoon because proto-Betty Boop characters turned up in the Screen Songs series in a bunch of different forms (like Any Little Girl and Kitty from Kansas City). Some of them look just like her, others have the voice, but not the head and body (like Little Annie Rooney and Betty Co-ed). Determining what is Betty and what isn't in the 1930-31 Screen Songs would be a judgement call. Easier to just list the Screen Songs, Talkartoons and Betty Boop series separately. Maltin's Of Mice and Magic has great filmographies for all the golden age studios.

I think you have Bum Bandit and Mysterious Mose transposed.
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostSun Jul 16, 2017 7:45 pm

Thanks Guys! Yes I've finally found it thanks to your help, on IMDb. In this particular list (annoyingly) the most recent is at the top, and then the further on down you go, you get to the oldest films. But I think (?) it must be the most complete list ever compiled?

Betty Boop's Hollywood Mystery (1989) Played by Melissa Fahn
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) Played by Mae Questel
... aka "Roger Rabbit" - Japan (English title) (imdb display title)
The Romance of Betty Boop (1985) (TV) Played by Desirée Goyette
Betty Boop for President (1980) (V) Played by Victoria Dorazi
... aka "Hurray for Betty Boop" - USA (alternative title)

Rhythm on the Reservation (1939) Played by Margie Hines
The Scared Crows (1939) Played by Margie Hines
Musical Mountaineers (1939) Played by Margie Hines
So Does an Automobile (1939) Played by Mae Questel
My Friend the Monkey (1939) Played by Margie Hines
Thrills and Chills (1938) Played by Margie Hines
... aka "Pudgy in Thrills and Chills" - USA (review title)
On with the New (1938) Played by Margie Hines / Mae Questel
Sally Swing (1938) Played by Margie Hines
Buzzy Boop at the Concert (1938) Played by Mae Questel
Buzzy Boop (1938) Played by Kate Wright
Pudgy and the Lost Kitten (1938) Played by Kate Wright
The Swing School (1938) Played by Bonnie Poe
Out of the Inkwell (1938) Played by Bonnie Poe
Honest Love and True (1938) Played by Mae Questel
Be Up to Date (1938) Played by Mae Questel
Riding the Rails (1938) Played by Mae Questel
Zula Hula (1937) Played by Mae Questel
The Foxy Hunter (1937) Played by Mae Questel
The New Deal Show (1937) Played by Mae Questel
Service with a Smile (1937) Played by Mae Questel
The Candid Candidate (1937) Played by Mae Questel
Ding Dong Doggie (1937) Played by Mae Questel
The Impractical Joker (1937) Played by Mae Questel
... aka "Grampy & the Impractical Joker" - USA (poster title)
The Hot Air Salesman (1937) Played by Mae Questel
Whoops! I'm a Cowboy (1937) Played by Mae Questel
House Cleaning Blues (1937) Played by Mae Questel
Making Friends (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Be Human (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Grampy's Indoor Outing (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Happy You and Merry Me (1936) Played by Mae Questel
You're Not Built That Way (1936) Played by Mae Questel
More Pep (1936) Played by Mae Questel
A Song a Day (1936) Played by Mae Questel
We Did It (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop and Little Jimmy (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Not Now (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop and the Little King (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Little Nobody (1936) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop with Henry the Funniest Living American (1935) Played by Mae Questel
Making Stars (1935) Played by Mae Questel
Judge for a Day (1935) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop and Grampy (1935) Played by Mae Questel
A Language All My Own (1935) Played by Mae Questel
A Little Soap and Water (1935) Played by Mae Questel
No! No! A Thousand Times No!! (1935) Played by Mae Questel
Swat the Fly (1935) Played by Mae Questel
Stop That Noise (1935) Played by Mae Questel
Taking the Blame (1935) Played by Mae Questel
Baby Be Good (1935) Played by Mae Questel
When My Ship Comes In (1934) Played by Mae Questel
Keep in Style (1934) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop's Prize Show (1934) Played by Mae Questel
There's Something About a Soldier (1934) Played by Mae Questel
Poor Cinderella (1934) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop's Life Guard (1934) Played by Bonnie Poe
Betty Boop's Trial (1934) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop's Rise to Fame (1934) Played by Bonnie Poe
Betty in Blunderland (1934) Played by Bonnie Poe
Ha! Ha! Ha! (1934) Played by Mae Questel
Red Hot Mamma (1934) Played by Bonnie Poe
She Wronged Him Right (1934) Played by Bonnie Poe
Parade of the Wooden Soldiers (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
Betty Boop's Hallowe'en Party (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
Morning, Noon and Night (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
I Heard (1933) Played by Mae Questel
The Old Man of the Mountain (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
Popeye the Sailor (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
Mother Goose Land (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
Betty Boop's Big Boss (1933) Played by Kate Wright
Betty Boop's May Party (1933) Played by Ann Little
Betty Boop's Birthday Party (1933) Played by Mae Questel
Snow-White (1933) Played by Mae Questel
Hollywood on Parade No. A-8 (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
Betty Boop's Penthouse (1933) Played by Mae Questel
Is My Palm Read (1933) Played by Mae Questel
... aka "Professor Bimbo" - USA (alternative title)
Betty Boop's Crazy Inventions (1933) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop's Ker-Choo (1933) Played by Bonnie Poe
Betty Boop's Museum (1932) Played by Mae Questel
I'll Be Glad When You're Dead You Rascal You (1932) Played by Ann Little
Betty Boop for President (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Romantic Melodies (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop's Ups and Downs (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop's Bamboo Isle (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Just a Gigolo (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop, M.D. (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Betty Boop's Bizzy Bee (1932) Played by Ann Little
Stopping the Show (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Rudy Vallee Melodies (1932) Played by Mae Questel
The Betty Boop Limited (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Admission Free (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Let Me Call You Sweetheart (1932) Played by Mae Questel
A Hunting We Will Go (1932) Played by Ann Little
Oh! How I Hate to Get Up in the Morning (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Chess-Nuts (1932) Played by Mae Questel
The Dancing Fool (1932) Played by Kate Wright
Just One More Chance (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Crazy-Town (1932) Played by Mae Questel
S.O.S. (1932) Played by Ann Little
... aka "Swim or Sink" - USA (alternative title)
Minnie the Moocher (1932) Played by Mae Questel
Wait Till the Sun Shines, Nellie (1932) Played by Ann Little
Boop-Oop-A-Doop (1932) Played by Ann Little
Any Rags (1932) Played by Ann Little
Musical Justice (1931) Played by Mae Questel
Dizzy Red Riding-Hood (1931) Played by Ann Little
Jack and the Beanstalk (1931) Played by Ann Little
Mask-A-Raid (1931) Played by Ann Little
Kitty from Kansas City (1931) Played by Mae Questel
... aka "Paramount Screen Song: Kitty from Kansas City" - USA (series title)
Minding the Baby (1931) Played by Mae Questel
Bimbo's Express (1931) Played by Mae Questel
Bimbo's Initiation (1931) Played by Mae Questel
Silly Scandals (1931) Played by Mae Questel
The Bum Bandit (1931) Played by Harriet Lee
Mysterious Mose (1930) Played by Margie Hines
Barnacle Bill (1930) Played by Ann Little
Dizzy Dishes (1930) Played by Margie Hines
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostMon Jul 17, 2017 6:56 am

WOW! This list I found on imdb is awesome! Its allowing me to find ALL of Betty's pre-code films on YouTube. Most of them in HD. For example I have just found "Chess Nuts" (1932). I prefer the pre-codes where she is dressed in mini-skirt and garter belt. I find the post-codes not quite so funny, and not so entertaining, nor original. It seems that Fleischers creative juices were at their very best at the beginning! Also, Mae Questel is my favourite voice to do Betty.




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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostTue Jul 25, 2017 6:00 pm



And in black and white..



"Betty Boop's Crazy Inventions" (1932)

Okay; So I've been investigating Betty Boop's colorized cartoons on YouTube, thinking that they were just straight colorizations from the black and white originals; but then suddenly I began to spot lots of very subtle differences between the newly colorized ones, and their black and white contemporaries.

The back-drops are all seemingly brand-newly painted, [obviously in colour.] The black and white back-drops have been removed. And I think (?) Although I cannot be 100 percent sure? But I think Betty's animation remains the same? i.e as it was in 1932, only they have given her a red dress.

And I am assuming they haven't tinkered with the soundtrack?? I think that remains the same?

Anyone have any idea who did these colorizations in the 1960's?

They have a better charm to them, than the nasty garish computerized colorizations from the 1990's. I think these have been done by hand?
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PostWed Jul 26, 2017 7:02 am

Those colorized Boop's were made in Korea. It didn't involve a computer but rather a team of people who traced each frame of the original cartoons. As you suspected the backgrounds were traced off the film as well. New backgrounds were painted and the frames re inked and re painted then photographed. The craftsmanship on these were sloppy. Since they were working from the original films they couldn't reproduce the fades and dissolves. You'll notice that when an original optical effect had taken place, the acton of the cartoon comes to a complete stop until the effect had passed then the action would resume. The original live action segments was not employed so in the case of ones that had performers at the beginning they just held the credit sequence for a longer duration. In the case of I'LL BE GLAD WHEN YOU'RE DEAD, YOU RASCAL YOU, Louis Armstrong's disembodied head is gone so Bimbo and Koko are being chased by nothing. If you look closely at MINNIE THE MOOCHER you'll see a cameraman's hand appear for one frame during the dancing walrus scenes. This process was also applied to a number of BW Looney Tunes and Turner employed the process to the BW Popeye's. All this of course took place just before the advent of computer colorization. At least with the colorization process you could see the original art under the color wash. I've seen instances of where the recolored versions were released in BW and passed off as the original cartoon.
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Re: Betty Boop on Blu

PostWed Jul 26, 2017 8:05 am

BixB wrote:Those colorized Boop's were made in Korea. It didn't involve a computer but rather a team of people who traced each frame of the original cartoons. As you suspected the backgrounds were traced off the film as well. New backgrounds were painted and the frames re inked and re painted then photographed. The craftsmanship on these were sloppy. Since they were working from the original films they couldn't reproduce the fades and dissolves. You'll notice that when an original optical effect had taken place, the acton of the cartoon comes to a complete stop until the effect had passed then the action would resume. The original live action segments was not employed so in the case of ones that had performers at the beginning they just held the credit sequence for a longer duration. In the case of I'LL BE GLAD WHEN YOU'RE DEAD, YOU RASCAL YOU, Louis Armstrong's disembodied head is gone so Bimbo and Koko are being chased by nothing. If you look closely at MINNIE THE MOOCHER you'll see a cameraman's hand appear for one frame during the dancing walrus scenes. This process was also applied to a number of BW Looney Tunes and Turner employed the process to the BW Popeye's. All this of course took place just before the advent of computer colorization. At least with the colorization process you could see the original art under the color wash. I've seen instances of where the recolored versions were released in BW and passed off as the original cartoon.


Wow Joe, that is truly fascinating! You certainly know your stuff! And that's what I love about this site.

So far I've only found a handful of colorized ones off off YouTube, (so the quality is only standard-definition 480i or even worse at times), and a lot of them have challenging subtitles (which can spoil the fun rather). But I just wanted to get an insight into the history.

Also -- some of the actual colour's chosen are ultra weird. In "Betty Boop in Dizzy Red Riding Hood" (1931) the wolf is bright pink (all over) -- i.e pink fur, with yellow and red eyes. How bizarre is that?

Also (a little off topic), but regarding the three ladies who supplied the voice of Betty during the "classic years", i.e. Ann Little, Mae Questel and Bonnie Poe -- I honestly cannot discern the slightest difference between the three of them! And I've listened really hard to all of these early "three" Betty Boop's. Mae Questel seems to do the bulk of them. All three voices are incredible.


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