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The Shape of Water inspirations

PostMon Nov 27, 2017 8:40 am

Guillermo del Toro spoke Sunday night at the Museum of Modern Art after a screening of his movie, which stars Sally Hawkins and Michael Shannon.

Del Toro said he wrote the script for Hawkins, and that when she agreed to take the part he sent her packages of Blu-rays as research. They included box sets of Harold Lloyd, Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, "and most especially Stan Laurel."
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PostFri Dec 22, 2017 11:26 pm

Daniel Eagan wrote:Guillermo del Toro spoke Sunday night at the Museum of Modern Art after a screening of his movie, which stars Sally Hawkins and Michael Shannon.

Del Toro said he wrote the script for Hawkins, and that when she agreed to take the part he sent her packages of Blu-rays as research. They included box sets of Harold Lloyd, Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, "and most especially Stan Laurel."


Well, her character is mute, so he felt it would help her communicate without her voice. The inspiration for the story itself is the Julie Adams/Gill Man swimming scene in CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, which entranced Guillermo when he was six.

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PostSat Dec 23, 2017 3:49 pm

Check out this 12 minute short from the Netherlands released two years ago "The Space Between Us" It can be seen on you-tube.
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PostWed Dec 27, 2017 11:49 am

Saw this last night and loved it. Sally Hawkins can say more with a raised eyebrow than most actors with a paragraph of dialogue. Nice to have a mini-Boardwalk Empire reunion of Michael Shannon and Michael Stuhlbarg as well.
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PostWed Dec 27, 2017 1:24 pm

s.w.a.c. wrote:Saw this last night and loved it. Sally Hawkins can say more with a raised eyebrow than most actors with a paragraph of dialogue. Nice to have a mini-Boardwalk Empire reunion of Michael Shannon and Michael Stuhlbarg as well.


It's a beautiful film. I'll spare some love for Doug Jones, too. Like Andy Serkis, he is a master of...shall we say "non-traditional" acting.
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PostWed Dec 27, 2017 6:12 pm

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s.w.a.c. wrote:Saw this last night and loved it. Sally Hawkins can say more with a raised eyebrow than most actors with a paragraph of dialogue. Nice to have a mini-Boardwalk Empire reunion of Michael Shannon and Michael Stuhlbarg as well.

It's a beautiful film. I'll spare some love for Doug Jones, too. Like Andy Serkis, he is a master of...shall we say "non-traditional" acting.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Mr. Jones a few years back, around the time of Pan's Labyrinth. Lovely man, who really enjoys his most interesting career.
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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 10:47 am

Back in the 1960s, playwright Paul Zindel wrote an unusual play called Let Me Hear You Whisper. It was later adapted for TV, and that version came out on video a few years ago. (The DVD is available from Netflix.) The first time I heard about The Shape of Water, I immediately thought of this play. Why? Well, here's a synopsis I found online, judge for yourself:

"The action is set in the laboratory of the American Biological Association Development for the Advancement of Brain Analysis, where curious experiments involving various mammals are taking place. Helen, a newly engaged cleaning lady, is particularly drawn to a dolphin and is shocked when she learns that, having failed to 'talk' as hoped for, it is slated for brain dissection. She makes a desperate attempt to rescue the dolphin from the scientists, incurring first their indignation and then, when the dolphin does indeed 'talk' for Helen, their futile pleas that she change her mind about leaving and stay on to help them in their experiments. But the gentle Helen has had enough—both of 'Custodial Engineering' and of schemes to change man's relationship to the other creatures with whom the world must be shared."

Hmmm . . .
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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 11:49 am

Wm. Charles Morrow wrote:Back in the 1960s, playwright Paul Zindel wrote an unusual play called Let Me Hear You Whisper. It was later adapted for TV, and that version came out on video a few years ago. (The DVD is available from Netflix.) The first time I heard about The Shape of Water, I immediately thought of this play. Why? Well, here's a synopsis I found online, judge for yourself:

"The action is set in the laboratory of the American Biological Association Development for the Advancement of Brain Analysis, where curious experiments involving various mammals are taking place. Helen, a newly engaged cleaning lady, is particularly drawn to a dolphin and is shocked when she learns that, having failed to 'talk' as hoped for, it is slated for brain dissection. She makes a desperate attempt to rescue the dolphin from the scientists, incurring first their indignation and then, when the dolphin does indeed 'talk' for Helen, their futile pleas that she change her mind about leaving and stay on to help them in their experiments. But the gentle Helen has had enough—both of 'Custodial Engineering' and of schemes to change man's relationship to the other creatures with whom the world must be shared."

Hmmm . . .


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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 11:58 am

s.w.a.c. wrote:
Frederica wrote:
s.w.a.c. wrote:Saw this last night and loved it. Sally Hawkins can say more with a raised eyebrow than most actors with a paragraph of dialogue. Nice to have a mini-Boardwalk Empire reunion of Michael Shannon and Michael Stuhlbarg as well.

It's a beautiful film. I'll spare some love for Doug Jones, too. Like Andy Serkis, he is a master of...shall we say "non-traditional" acting.

I had the pleasure of interviewing Mr. Jones a few years back, around the time of Pan's Labyrinth. Lovely man, who really enjoys his most interesting career.


He's having a moment now, as a cast member on ST: Discovery. I think his days of relative anonymity are over. He was not on my radar before Discovery so I was surprised to find out how many films and television programs he's been in and how many of them I've seen without focusing on who that guy was.
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PostTue Jan 09, 2018 10:51 am

The Austin Film Critics Association have announced the winners of their awards for 2017:
https://austinfilmcritics.org/2017-aust ... 5ce8c11b71" target="_blank

Particularly of interest (to me, at least, and apropos of this conversation), "The AFCA also announces two Special Awards, honoring The Shape of Water’s Doug Jones and War for the Planet of the Apes’ Andy Serkis for their exemplary body and motion-capture performances, respectively, and the late Harry Dean Stanton for his long and distinguished career."

MoCap is an increasingly important part of an actor's repertoire (as is voice acting), but it tends to be treated like the ugly stepchild. I'm glad to see both Jones and Serkis get some recognition for their work.

Also Harry Dean Stanton should get some kind of award every year, just because he was Harry Dean Stanton.
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