The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostTue Oct 13, 2015 7:56 am

Unfortunately no - as not all the footage from the feature version of KEEP MOVING was used in the shorts. The framing story for the feature had Musty as the son of the King and Queen of Blunderland who longs to see the real world, so the King has the Fairy Tramp take him there. Then all of Musty's misadventures occur and these were part of the shorts. At the end Musty has finally had enough, so he and the Fairy Tramp returned to Blunderland.

LOC has the George Kleine papers as well as films, and in letters Kleine mentions a few times having footage that was never used and toyed with using it to put out more Musty adventures. That footage doesn't appear to have been saved by Kleine.
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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostSat Jan 23, 2016 11:35 am

Musty love from Movie Morlocks:

David Kalat just posted an excellent essay about "The Mishaps of Musty Suffer" on the TCM "Movie Morlocks" blog.

Read all about it here.

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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostSat Jan 23, 2016 12:56 pm

A beautiful piece of writing and a fine love note.

Bob
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PostSat Jan 23, 2016 5:10 pm

Reading through my old art history books, Surrealism's major influence was Dada and Dada predates Kleine and Watson's film partnership. Dada's major voice was Marcel Duchamp and he released his first ready mades in 1913. The ready mades were usually commercially manufactured items that he would turn into "art." He took a massed produced image of the Mona Lisa and painted a mustache on it and he signed the name "Mutt" to a urinal and entered it in an art show. These kind of ideas were already floating around art in Europe before the war started and before the Musty Suffer films were made. But it is possible that these ideas had a big effect on Kleine.
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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostSat Jan 23, 2016 5:18 pm

The inability of some people to believe that people cannot conceive of the idea of silliness and absurdity without a grounding in the latest and indeed,next decade's latest High Art makes my tuchus hurt. How did Moliere manage without Impressionism?

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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostSat Jan 23, 2016 6:17 pm

FYI the "surreal" aspects of the Musty films, esp the crazy props and sets, were the brainchild of the series' director Louis Myll, per Steve Massa's research.

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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostThu Jul 12, 2018 8:53 pm

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Musty Suffer in The Soda Jerker (1917), which Ben Model says was not entertaining enough to make it onto the Musty Suffer DVDs.
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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostFri Jul 13, 2018 10:11 am

Looks entertaining to me! (But I guess we'll never really know.) :(
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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostSun Jul 15, 2018 10:52 am

silentfilm wrote:Image
Musty Suffer in The Soda Jerker (1917), which Ben Model says was not entertaining enough to make it onto the Musty Suffer DVDs.


Maybe we need a Musty Vol. 3...I'm in!
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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostMon Jul 16, 2018 10:24 am

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Cruel and Unusual (1916). Another Musty Suffer Ben Model says was not entertaining enough to make it onto the Musty Suffer DVDs.
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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostMon Jul 16, 2018 10:53 am

Lonesome Luke wrote:Image
Cruel and Unusual (1916). Another Musty Suffer Ben Model says was not entertaining enough to make it onto the Musty Suffer DVDs.


I enjoyed it greatly when I saw it at Slapsticon way back when.

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Re: The Mishaps of Musty Suffer

PostMon Jul 16, 2018 11:22 am

This first entry in the series is one of the "whirls" where one half of it is not all that interesting (Musty on a golf course), and the second half is pretty good. This is the only title that only survives in a 35mm paper print available for viewing/scanning in a 1970s 16mm Renovare print that looks pretty dupey, while the rest survive in gorgeous 16mm printdown from 35mm nitrate. This is probably the first Musty I ever saw, at an early Slapsticon. Fortunately there were at least three other "crazy doctor" films in the series to include on the other DVDs.

If anyone wants to produce a third volume, Steve or I can tell you which titles remain and will wish you all the best. I'm busy with the Alice Howell project and a 2nd volume of "Found at Mostly Lost" and getting ready to release the restored Kinetophones at the moment. :D

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