Does Flicker Alley have ALL known surviving Melies?

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Does Flicker Alley have ALL known surviving Melies?

PostWed Apr 23, 2014 10:33 am

I have both the fabulous 5 DVD Melies box from Flicker Alley as well as their follow-up Encore collection. I haven't gotten the Trip to the Moon color Blu yet (though it is high on my list--just a little pricey for the amount of content).

My question is this: I've been looking everywhere for a complete list of known surviving films from Melies to compare with what has been released by Flicker Alley and keep coming up with nothing. Do we know of any surviving Melies films that are NOT included in any of the Flicker Alley releases mentioned above? If so, are they available elsewhere? If so, where?

I'd like to have as complete a Melies collection as possible (perhaps I already do).
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Re: Does Flicker Alley have ALL known surviving Melies?

PostWed Apr 23, 2014 11:35 am

It is not quite complete; one archive in Catalonia has a few films that they would not make available. 200 films is probably enough for most folks, however.

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Re: Does Flicker Alley have ALL known surviving Melies?

PostSun Mar 18, 2018 1:14 pm

Anyone know if any additional Méliès films have turned up since 2010?

Also, I don't suppose there's any chance of a Flicker Alley all-in-one Méliès release (Blu if the original masters were done in HD, DVD if not) encompassing everything in First Wizard and Encore, plus the remaining unreleased films hopefully negotiated out of the hands of that Catalonian archive? And while they're prepping this pipe dream release of mine, they can take the opportunity to make a title correction for the film misidentified in the Encore set as the still-lost AN HALLUCINATED ALCHEMIST (1897) which is actually a colored and shortened version of THE MYSTERIOUS RETORT (1906) (thanks to poster Derwiddian for pointing this out back in 2010); they can also give credit to Frederick Hodges for the scores of THE MYSTICAL FLAME, THE DOCTOR'S SECRET and FANTASTIC BUTTERFLIES, which were accidentally credited to Antonio Coppola according to David Shepard. This would go nicely on my shelf next to the fabulous Blu-ray re-release of the colored A TRIP TO THE MOON.

Well, a fella can dream. But regardless, the existing DVD sets are indeed fabulous treasure boxes, and I'm very grateful to have them.
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Re: Does Flicker Alley have ALL known surviving Melies?

PostSun Mar 18, 2018 5:38 pm

Cheerful hello from a fellow Méliès aficionado! :)

Wikipedia's "Georges Méliès filmography" attempts to keep track of which films survive (and the nice thing about the wiki format is that it can be kept up to date):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_M%C3%A9li%C3%A8s_filmography

Among the new discoveries yet to appear on DVD anywhere (as far as I know) are Conjuring, A Terrible Night, The Clown and Automobile, The Triple-Headed Lady, the more complete version of Robinson Crusoe, the Méliès version of The Eruption of Mount Pelee (the one on the Encore set appears to be Ferdinand Zecca's), and A Wager Between Two Magicians, or Jealous of Myself.

A 2008 list on the Classic Horror Film Board tallied the films extant at the time that didn't appear on First Wizard; subtracting those on Encore and the seeming false positive Cléopâtre, we seem to be left with:

Star Catalogue titles
*156. Pygmalion et Galathée, 20 m. 1898
*171. Salle à manger fantastique, 20 m. 1899
*180. Luttes extravagantes, 20 m. 1899
*205. Évocation spirite, 20 m. 1899
*237-240. Les Miracles du Brahmine, 80 m. 1900
*284. L’Artiste et le Mannequin, 20 m. 1900
*417-418. La Femme volante, 40 m. 1902
*422-425. Une indigestion, 85 m. 1902
*560-561. Benvenuto Cellini ou Curieuse Évasion, 55 m. 1904

Non-Star Catalogue Titles
– L’Agent gelé, 175 m. 1908
– Tribulation or the Misfortunes of a Cobbler. 1908
– Publicité pour la Régie des tabacs. 1933


As the late David Shepard implied above, one can imagine the wealth of rights-related issues that must have popped up while collecting the films (e.g. a few of the ones on the list above made it to DVD on the StudioCanal set). The wealth of films Flicker Alley did manage to collect is indeed a remarkable achievement.

But just for fun, since we're now talking a dream collection of everything, we can add the 3D Méliès films newly engineered by Lobster Films to the wishlist:

https://thebioscope.net/2010/01/12/melies-in-3d/
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Re: Does Flicker Alley have ALL known surviving Melies?

PostMon Mar 19, 2018 1:54 am

Thank you so much for that info!

Ok, so it looks like the consolidated list of extant Méliès films missing from the Flicker Alley releases is as follows (I've added the missing info via googling):

Star Catalogue Titles::

*2. Séance de Prestidigitation (Conjuring), 20m. 1896
*26. Une Nuit Terrible (A Terrible Night), 20m. 1896
*156. Pygmalion et Galathée (Pygmalion And Galatea), 20 m. 1898
*171. Salle à manger fantastique (A Dinner Under Difficulties), 20 m. 1899
*180. Luttes extravagantes (The Fat And The Lean Wrestling Match), 20 m. 1899
*194-195. Automaboulisme et Autorité (scène comique clownesque) (The Clown and Automobile), 40m. 1899
The Triple-Headed Lady. 1901 (can't find this one in the Wiki filmography)
*205. Évocation spirite (Summoning The Spirits), 20 m. 1899
*237-240. Les Miracles du Brahmine (The Miracles Of Brahmin), 80 m. 1900
*284. L’Artiste et le Mannequin (The Artist And The Dummy), 20 m. 1900
*397. Éruption volcanique à la Martinique (The Eruption of Mount Pelee). 1902 (the one on the Encore set appears to be Ferdinand Zecca's)
*417-418. La Femme volante (Marvelous Suspension And Evolution), 40 m. 1902
*422-425. Une indigestion (Sure Cure For Indigestion), 85 m. 1902
*430-443. Les aventures de Robinson Crusoë (Robinson Crusoe), 280m. 1902 (more complete version)
*542-544. Match de prestidigitation (A Wager Between Two Magicians, or Jealous of Myself), 60m. 1904
*560-561. Benvenuto Cellini ou Curieuse Évasion (Benvenuto Cellini; Or, A Curious Evasion), 55 m. 1904
*634-636. Le Rosier miraculeux (The Wonderful Rose Tree). 1904 (discovered at the same time as The Triple-Headed Lady)

Non-Star Catalogue Titles:

– L’Agent gelé (The Frozen Silver), 175 m. 1908
– Tribulation or the Misfortunes of a Cobbler. 1908
– Publicité pour la Régie des tabacs (Advertising For State Tobacco) 1933

That's a total of twenty extant Méliès films that are missing from the Flicker Alley set. Expanded reissue time! And yeah, let's throw in:

The Infernal Cauldron (3-D)
The Oracle Of Delphi (3-D)

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