THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

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THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 7:23 pm

This film, preserved by the Eye Film Institute, was posted in the European Film Gateway:

http://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/it/no ... h0LTEtNA==" target="_blank

Although, they dated the film as being from 1921, a used at the IMDb stated that it is actually a 1917 production.

The only thing I can ad is that I found that this film opened in Rio de Janeiro in June 1920 and I found ads for it, if almost unremarkable ones.

However, I did find a synopsis and one ad that list the film as being from Triangle instead of Tanhouser.

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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 10:39 pm

AFI has the film as the Slave Mart (1917) or The Slave Market (1917) distributed by Victoria Feature Films (NY) September 1917. 6 Reels with the same cast you mentioned in the 2 ads you posted.

Several articles in newspapers.com has the film based on the stage play by the same name, The Slave Mart (1917) released in US in the spring of 1917 with Marguerite Snow and James Cruze.
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostTue Mar 21, 2017 11:37 pm

Hamilton's Grandson wrote:AFI has the film as the Slave Mart (1917) or The Slave Market (1917) distributed by Victoria Feature Films (NY) September 1917. 6 Reels with the same cast you mentioned in the 2 ads you posted.

Several articles in newspapers.com has the film based on the stage play by the same name, The Slave Mart (1917) released in US in the spring of 1917 with Marguerite Snow and James Cruze.


Do you have any image to share? I don't understand why in the Netherlands they consider it as a Tanhouser production while in Brazil by Triangle. The reason I shared the ones in Portuguese is because they are the only one I was able to get for free.
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 8:25 am

I see several black and white photos from the film on newspapers.com . I will try to clip and upload in another post.
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 11:55 am

Guys, the IMDB review says it all: The Slave Mart (1917) and The Slave Market (1917) are two different films.
The former is listed as 1921, but: "It was reviewed in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin of November 26, 1917, page 5, and the names and plot match the online video with Marguerite Snow."

Possibly this was just as confusing then as it is now, which accounts for potentially wrong companies?
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 12:33 pm

HI Spiny,

My reference source was my hardback copy of AFI's film encyclopedia from 1911-1920. AFI says both titles were 2017.

IMDB is constantly looking for the public to correct any info. they have that may be incorrect. Not saying this needs to be amended just saying both sources have different years and AFI has an alternate title for the same film.
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 1:41 pm

Hamilton's Grandson wrote:HI Spiny,

My reference source was my hardback copy of AFI's film encyclopedia from 1911-1920. AFI says both titles were 2017.

IMDB is constantly looking for the public to correct any info. they have that may be incorrect. Not saying this needs to be amended just saying both sources have different years and AFI has an alternate title for the same film.
You mean 1917, right? But that is right in both cases. That newspaper can be read online, and doesn't leave room for doubt (the other one has a very different plot and cast).
It was in fact me who corrected the IMDB title from 1921 to 1917. I also tried to inform EYE, but it seems they never changed it.
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 2:10 pm

With subtitles:

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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 7:55 pm

Thanks Spiny for clearing that up. Great EYE film restoration and did not know that was available on line. Thanks for the upload.

I rely on AFI a lot. Glad to see that you also contribute often to IMDB.
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 9:15 pm

Thanks for the subtitles, I was either going to prepare them myself or wait for a friend to provide me ones in Spanish.

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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 9:24 pm

Here's more on The Slave Market (i have 1916 for this)
http://www.stanford.edu/~gdegroat/PF/reviews/sm.htm

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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 9:30 pm

greta de groat wrote:Here's more on The Slave Market (i have 1916 for this)
http://www.stanford.edu/~gdegroat/PF/reviews/sm.htm" target="_blank

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Wrong film... or at least this is the other one with the similar title.
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 9:38 pm

Too many similar titles like that!

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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostThu Mar 23, 2017 4:04 am

The OTHER one, although it survives, is much less findable in the papers. In fact it's just luck that there is a copy and that this page has many details that only fit that: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ ... d-1/seq-5/" target="_blank
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Re: THE SLAVE MARKET or THE SLAVE MART (1917)

PostThu Mar 23, 2017 8:52 am

Spiny Norman wrote:The OTHER one, although it survives, is much less findable in the papers. In fact it's just luck that there is a copy and that this page has many details that only fit that: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/ ... d-1/seq-5/" target="_blank" target="_blank


Thank you for this!

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