Question about films from "The soul of the moving picture"

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Question about films from "The soul of the moving picture"

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 10:16 am

FIrst of all, I dislike the fact that my first post here is a question, but that's the way it is.

I was recently reading an early film study called "The soul of the moving picture" (by Walter Bloem Jr. - https://archive.org/details/soulofmovingpict00bloe" target="_blank" target="_blank ). As I was reading the english translation, there were few films mentioned that I can't identify, so if somebody here has read the original version, maybe there can be some help.

The films are:

"The Vampyre" - I suppose this is the original "Nosferatu", but I can't be sure (p. 114)
"Honor Thy Mother" - described as a Goldwyn picture, but I have no idea which one (p. 116, 154, 164)
"Columbus" - there are several versions, I don't know which one he refers to (p. 120)
"A Doll's House" - same (figure 17)
"Suvarin" - can't find a film with that name (p. 142)
"Fiesko" - there are several versions (p. 149)
"Quo Vadis?" - same (p. 156)
"The Orphan" - I don't have any idea (p. 164)


Thank you very much in advance.

EDIT: "Columbus" is described as a French film and "Suvarin" as a German film.
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 11:42 am

There's a 1913 film titled The Vampire, directed by Italian-American Robert G. Vignola, not to mention two Eastern European versions of Dracula that pre-date the Murnau film. Where does the book originate?
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 11:55 am

s.w.a.c. wrote:There's a 1913 film titled The Vampire, directed by Italian-American Robert G. Vignola, not to mention two Eastern European versions of Dracula that pre-date the Murnau film. Where does the book originate?


The book is from Germany and the author relies heavily (I haven't made the list, but around 80-90%) on German titles to serve as examples.
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 3:34 pm

Nosferatu seems to have been released in several markets as "Nosferatu: The Vampire" (as opposed to "Nosferatu: A Symphony of Terror"), so it's possible the translator simply went with "The Vampire". It'd be intriguing to see a German-language version.
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostWed Mar 22, 2017 3:41 pm

The Vampire (1913) was from Kalem:

http://www.filmaffinity.com/en/film759485.html
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostThu Mar 23, 2017 3:31 pm

Thank You for your input, all of you.

I think I would go with the following:

"The Vampyre" - "Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens" (reason: he mostly referenced German films of the early 20s)
"Columbus" - "Christophe Colomb" (1910) (reason: the only French version and had some worldwide distribution, there was a German version in 1922, but he would refer to it as a German, unless it was a co-production and the fact is unknown today)
"Fiesko" - "Die Verschwörung zu Genua" (reason: the most recent German version)
"Quo Vadis?" - I would go with Guazzoni's version (the original book vas from 1922 and D'Annunzio's version is from 1924. However, some 1923-4 films were added for this edition. The original German book would help)

"A Doll's House" - same (figure 17) - not sure, but maybe somebody can identify the still photo from the film (page 130)

I still have no idea for ""Honor Thy Mother", "Suvarin" and "The Orphan"...

THe best I can think of for "Suvarin" is misspelling of "Sumurun"
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostFri Mar 24, 2017 8:18 pm

I also thought of Sumurun for Suvarin.

For A Dolls House, my guess would be the Nazimova version from 1922.
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostSat Mar 25, 2017 6:51 am

Thank you very much for your input.


That leaves only "Honor Thy Mother" and "The Orphan".

The first film was praised a lot in the book, but I can't find a Goldwyn title with that name...
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostSat Mar 25, 2017 1:39 pm

Could The Orphan be Chaplin's the Kid? Or another Jackie Coogan film. Some Pickford films could fit that title, too. Is it for sure an American film?
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostSat Mar 25, 2017 1:54 pm

I just had a thought - could Honour thy Mother be Stella Dallas?
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Re: Question about films from "The soul of the moving pictur

PostSun Mar 26, 2017 3:30 pm

I really appreciate your input.

It is not specified from which country does "The Orphan" come.

As for the "Stella Dallas", it seems it was released in 1925, so it would be impossible to be included in a 1924 book.

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