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LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:10 pm
by earlytalkiebuffRob
Have just noticed an upload of LILAC TIME, but not a very good one. Are there better copies extant or in circulation? Don't want to watch it if a better one is about...

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:41 pm
by Agnes
Where did you access Lilac Time?

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:33 pm
by radiotelefonia



Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:38 am
by telical
Thanks. That's one off my list. Colleen looks gorgeous.

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:42 pm
by silentfilm
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Lilac Time survives in excellent quality. Unfortunately, it doesn't have a musical soundtrack, even though it was released with one a few months after its initial release. Hopefully someday someone at Warner Brothers will engage someone to write a score. It is a terrific film.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:14 pm
by radiotelefonia
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Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:39 am
by smokey15
Turner Classic Movies had it on their schedule several months ago. Then they took it off with no
explanation whatsoever and never re-scheduled it. It would have been a TCM premiere.

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:25 pm
by Rodney
silentfilm wrote:Lilac Time survives in excellent quality. Unfortunately, it doesn't have a musical soundtrack, even though it was released with one a few months after its initial release. Hopefully someday someone at Warner Brothers will engage someone to write a score. It is a terrific film.


Lilac Time is one of those films (like Redskin) for which some, but not all, of the sound track records survive. I got involved in an attempt (ultimately unsuccessful, unfortunately) to put together a concert where the film was to be shown with the audio that survives, and then Mont Alto would fill in the gaps with live music. But it didn't end up happening.

During the research for that project, I did find that two cue sheets survive for the film: one is for live orchestras or organists, like the cue sheets we all know and love; the other is a "phototone" cue sheet that recommends audio recordings for each scene in the film, so that you could compile a score using a double-turntable record player. Early DJ spinning!

Several of the records were sound-effects records rather than musical recordings, so like Wings, Lilac Time had portions where the music dropped out and only effects (airplane motors, battle effects) were heard. At least, if the "Phototone" cue sheet were used.

I imagine that the lack of a usable score is why Lilac Time hasn't shown on TCM yet.

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:18 pm
by Gagman 66
Rodney,

:? It's my understanding that 3 of the audio scoring discs were still missing to LILAC TIME. I sure was hoping they had been found by now. They have been found for REDSKIN just recently. Hopefully the restored LILAC TIME contains the original title card designs, rather then the later generic ones. As ever the continued lack of availability of this film on official DVD remains perplexing and frustrating. Especially being such an important film for Gary Cooper. Basically along with the lost THE LEGION OF CONDEMNED theses are the two films that made him a major Star.

Jorge,

:o Thanks much for linking the exceedingly rare Silents Please abridgement. Always longed to see this. Alas, the print source was not as good as I had hoped, but still great to see at last. Some wonderful trade ad's as well. No "Jeannine" theme, but I liked the music in the Silents Please presentation.

Smokey 15,

:( That was already a year ago, last September that LILAC TIME was on the TCM schedule. Ultimately replaced with other programming. Subsequently, the same thing happened with THE PATENT LEATHER KID this past February, and then ELLA CINDERS back in May.

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:09 am
by earlytalkiebuffRob
Thank you. I won't hurry to watch it that being the case...

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:04 pm
by smokey15
Wasn't "Lilac Time" released on VHS tape several years ago? If so, what musical score was used for the background music?
I'm sure it wasn't released without some musical score.

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:35 pm
by busby1959
Such a beautiful movie - one of my favorites. Reputedly, the premier of LILAC TIME marked the first date of Al Jolson and Ruby Keeler.

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:49 am
by R Michael Pyle
smokey15 wrote:Wasn't "Lilac Time" released on VHS tape several years ago? If so, what musical score was used for the background music?
I'm sure it wasn't released without some musical score.

I had two different VHS tapes at one time of "Lilac Time", one with music, one without. Unfortunately, I no longer have my VHS tapes, and I don't remember what music was on it.

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:38 pm
by Harlowgold
You can download and burn a dvd of it here, very mediocre quality but hey it's free https://archive.org/details/BillSprague ... lleenMoore

Re: LILAC TIME (1928)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:17 pm
by radiotelefonia
Harlowgold wrote:You can download and burn a dvd of it here, very mediocre quality but hey it's free https://archive.org/details/BillSprague ... lleenMoore" target="_blank


These videos, posted one month ago, have somehow better quality.