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Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:32 pm
by Ed Watz
Frederica wrote:
Penfold wrote:
Ed Watz wrote:The only human-animal species smooching in silents more grotesque than that is Larry Semon sucking lips with Snooky (the Chimp, not the Jersey Shore chick) in THE STAR BOARDER (1919).


You think ???? You must have missed this, shown at The Giornate in it's Sacile days, late at night. I've left the description untranslated for the faint of heart.......but babelfish is your friend.... http://www.cinetecadelfriuli.org/gcm/ed_precedenti/screenings_recordit.php?ID=4939


OH.MY.GOD! I'd blanked that one from my mind! Ew!!


Wow, gives new meaning to the Marx Brothers phrase, "Why a duck?" doesn't it!

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:58 pm
by odinthor
Does May McAvoy perhaps actually kiss the errant dove at some point of Ben-Hur's near- meet cute between her and Ramon Novarro? She's certainly very fond of it . . .

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:11 pm
by Frederica
New York Daily Mirror, Dec 30, 1916, p. 25. Dale Fuller kisses a raven. As if normal bird kissing wasn't icky enough.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii13 ... 73a8b4.jpg" target="_blank

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:56 pm
by Jim Roots
odinthor wrote:Does May McAvoy perhaps actually kiss the errant dove at some point of Ben-Hur's near- meet cute between her and Ramon Novarro? She's certainly very fond of it . . .


Yes, she does kiss it, and more than once.

Jim

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:14 pm
by SteppenBow59
Some bird-kissing on a cover of Film Fun.

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Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:25 pm
by rudyfan
Ow! My Eyes! Dale Fuller, bird kissing, AND in color! Aiyee!

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:32 pm
by Frederica
rudyfan wrote:Ow! My Eyes! Dale Fuller, bird kissing, AND in color! Aiyee!


It's the same photo, only in color! OMG, the horror!

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:25 am
by greta de groat
Just spotted Lois Moran kissing a bird in Feu Mathias Pascal.

greta

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:48 am
by missdupont
Photo for sale on ebay, Bebe Daniels kissing a dove.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bebe-Daniels-or ... ultDomain_" target="_blank

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:47 am
by Frederica
missdupont wrote:Photo for sale on ebay, Bebe Daniels kissing a dove.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bebe-Daniels-or ... ultDomain_" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank


That one is super creepy.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:49 pm
by Christopher Jacobs
In LAILA (1929), the film I watched for "Watch That Movie Night," there's no bird-kissing but Mona Mårtensson does play around with and then kiss a reindeer!

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:10 pm
by Rodney
Christopher Jacobs wrote:In LAILA (1929), the film I watched for "Watch That Movie Night," there's no bird-kissing but Mona Mårtensson does play around with and then kiss a reindeer!


Not quite as exotic, but I'm working on The Fall of Babylon (the excerpt from Intolerance), and Constance Talmadge not only nuzzles and kisses a goat after milking it, she gives it a playful bite on the ear. Which the goat doesn't seem to appreciate. Its handler removes it quite rapidly from any further attentions.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:56 am
by Rick Lanham
The thread's list so far:

1909 - TENDER HEARTS - James Kirkwood and Mary Pickford
1910s - Bebe Daniels photo on eBay.
1913 - THE LAST DAYS OF POMPEII - Fernanda Negri Pouget and bird; also sorceress and lizard
1915 - BIRTH OF A NATION - Lillian Gish
1915 - A HUMAN HAND’S TRIUMPH - Mae Busch
1916 - INTOLERANCE/THE FALL OF BABYLON - Constance Talmadge and goat
1916 - New York Times - Dale Fuller & a raven
1916 - SNOW WHITE - Marguerite Clark
1918 - STELLA MARIS - Mary Pickford
1924 - GREED - Gibson Gowland
1925 - BEN-HUR - May McAvoy
1925 (circa) - Le Canard
1925 - Liberty magazine - Betty Bronson
1926 - FEU MATHIAS PASCAL - Lois Moran
1926 - TIME FLIES (short) - Lupino Lane
1928 - SHOOTING STARS - Annette Benson
1929 - LAILA - Mona Mårtensson and a reindeer
1930s - Thelma Todd posed with bird
1937 - SNOW WHITE - during “One Song”
1962 - BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ - Burt Lancaster
1964 - MARY POPPINS - Jane Darwell

Rick

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:49 am
by Rico
From- Greed-directed by Erich Von Stroheim.

The bird kissing scene precedes the one where McTeague throws the guy down a steep cliff for hurting his bird. After the cliff scene the title card reads something like, 'and this is what McTeague was like'. An indication of the kind of dynamite that lay under the central character of this incredible film.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:21 pm
by Frederica
Rick Lanham wrote:The thread's list so far:

(snip)

Rick


Future film scholars thank you.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:32 pm
by LouieD
El Brendel in "You Never Know Women", 1926, kisses Bozo the Goose.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:48 pm
by Rodney
Got all excited during the bird kissing extravaganza in Snow White (1916) at the Castro yesterday, but I see that's already been documented. Good work, squad!

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:00 pm
by greta de groat
Ok, i just checked When a Man Loves, and Dolores Costello does briefly kiss a dove.


greta

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:49 pm
by Rick Lanham
Here's a link to an alt.movies.silent discussion about bird-kissing:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... pkgEWtDXZc" target="_blank

Rick

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:46 pm
by Derwiddian
Next question for scholarship: How many bird-kissing episodes resulted in avian to human transmission of the flu virus? Can we blame the 50-100 million deaths in the Great Influenza pandemic of 1918 on Mary Pickford and Stella Maris?

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:27 am
by BankofAmericasSweetheart
Maybe I'm of a younger generation that just doesn't understand old-fashioned values but why did people kiss birds again? Is it supposed to be romantic or adorable? I wouldn't put my mouth let alone hand anywhere near a wild bird considering the nasty diseases they carry. Why anyone would kiss a bird in a photograph or motion picture is beyond me, they might as well kiss a skunk!

BTW, that cover of "Film Fun" magazine of that black crow/raven thing kissing that woman is hilarious! Looks like a scene from Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" right before the bird rips apart that woman's face.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:46 am
by Frederica
BankofAmericasSweetheart wrote:Maybe I'm of a younger generation that just doesn't understand old-fashioned values but why did people kiss birds again? Is it supposed to be romantic or adorable? I wouldn't put my mouth let alone hand anywhere near a wild bird considering the nasty diseases they carry. Why anyone would kiss a bird in a photograph or motion picture is beyond me, they might as well kiss a skunk!

BTW, that cover of "Film Fun" magazine of that black crow/raven thing kissing that woman is hilarious! Looks like a scene from Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" right before the bird rips apart that woman's face.


It's Victorian shorthand for virginal innocence, as was cuddling a kitten or something equally fluffy. I'm with you. YUCK.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:31 pm
by Jim Roots
Frederica wrote:
BankofAmericasSweetheart wrote:Maybe I'm of a younger generation that just doesn't understand old-fashioned values but why did people kiss birds again? Is it supposed to be romantic or adorable? I wouldn't put my mouth let alone hand anywhere near a wild bird considering the nasty diseases they carry. Why anyone would kiss a bird in a photograph or motion picture is beyond me, they might as well kiss a skunk!

BTW, that cover of "Film Fun" magazine of that black crow/raven thing kissing that woman is hilarious! Looks like a scene from Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" right before the bird rips apart that woman's face.


It's Victorian shorthand for virginal innocence, as was cuddling a kitten or something equally fluffy. I'm with you. YUCK.


At least Lillian wasn't French-kissing the damn bird. As far as we know.

Jim

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:50 pm
by Frederica
Jim Roots wrote:
Frederica wrote:It's Victorian shorthand for virginal innocence, as was cuddling a kitten or something equally fluffy. I'm with you. YUCK.


At least Lillian wasn't French-kissing the damn bird. As far as we know.

Jim


Ew.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:07 pm
by greta de groat
Pigeons french kiss each other, so the possibility is there, i suppose. Ew.

greta

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:10 am
by Jim Roots
The Extraordinary Adventures of Mr. West In the Land of the Bolsheviks opens with the lead actor kissing not one, but two doves.

And you thought Soviet silent films had no romance in them...

P.S. Has anyone else noticed the American flag used in the early scenes of this film has at least 20 stripes?

Jim

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:13 am
by Scoundrel
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Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:54 am
by odinthor
Ed Watz wrote:No one mentioned Gibson Gowland smothering a sparrow with his lips in BIG closeup from GREED yet?

The only human-animal species smooching in silents more grotesque than that is Larry Semon sucking lips with Snooky (the Chimp, not the Jersey Shore chick) in THE STAR BOARDER (1919).



We get Charles K. Gerrard smooching with an unusually unpleasant chimp in Reginald Denny's amusing California Straight Ahead of 1925. But don't blame Charles. He thought it was Gertrude Olmstead.

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:48 am
by emanuelharmon
so cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute!i wanna kiss that birdie too. :)

Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:09 pm
by SteppenBow59
Scoundrel wrote:
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Good lord...