Has anyone met SIMON CHERRY lately?

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Has anyone met SIMON CHERRY lately?

PostThu Oct 23, 2014 3:33 pm

Many years back, I came across a crime novel, MEET THE REV, based on a radio serial which was also adapted as a film MEET SIMON CHERRY (1949). It featured a crime-fighting parson who was very handy with his fists, and though there has been a glut of detecting clerics on TV in recent years I thought it might be interesting and / or amusing. It was made by Exclusive, which became Hammer, and a lot of these spin-off films (PC 49, Dick Barton, Paul Temple, etc.) have recently been uploaded or made available on DVD. I was wondering if MEET SIMON CHERRY had been available lately or if it was still around at all. It does look more likely now...
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PostMon Dec 01, 2014 4:31 pm

A DVD of "Meet Simon Cherry" is around. It looks as though it was taped off TV many years ago but very watchable. It must be due for an official release.
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PostTue Dec 02, 2014 4:04 pm

rangebuster wrote:A DVD of "Meet Simon Cherry" is around. It looks as though it was taped off TV many years ago but very watchable. It must be due for an official release.


Thanks for this. I did have a faint hope that MEET SIMON CHERRY was still around as quite a lot of Exclusive / early Hammer films have been turning up, either on PD uploads or through labels such as Renown / Best of British, etc. And whatever the quality, it is nice to find out for oneself, rather than through the scorn of Leslie Halliwell and others...
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PostWed Feb 22, 2017 1:24 pm

MEET SIMON CHERRY has finally turned up via a YT upload of a Channel 4 recording.
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PostWed Feb 22, 2017 9:48 pm

Thanks for pointing this one out. Are there any other similar British movies of this era and type that also have clergy or religious themes?
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PostThu Feb 23, 2017 2:57 am

Yes Lease For Life starring Robert Do at which has had a DVD release
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PostThu Feb 23, 2017 1:44 pm

telical wrote:Thanks for pointing this one out. Are there any other similar British movies of this era and type that also have clergy or religious themes?


THIRD TIME LUCKY (1931) has Bobby Howes as a timid country parson who comes to the rescue of his ward who is being blackmailed as well as seduced by a couple of crooks. It's on the same site and I found it very funny indeed.

Will Hay played a gambling vicar in DANDY DICK (1935).

Denis Gifford's 'British Film Catalogue' is indispensable. David Quinlan's 'British Sound Films - the Studio Years 1928-1959' is also very useful. Both have come down in price online over the years.

I can bring the Quinlan home and have a trawl through, if you like. I'm sure there's plenty of others.
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PostThu Feb 23, 2017 3:17 pm

earlytalkiebuffRob wrote:
telical wrote:Thanks for pointing this one out. Are there any other similar British movies of this era and type that also have clergy or religious themes?


THIRD TIME LUCKY (1931) has Bobby Howes as a timid country parson who comes to the rescue of his ward who is being blackmailed as well as seduced by a couple of crooks. It's on the same site and I found it very funny indeed.

Will Hay played a gambling vicar in DANDY DICK (1935).

Denis Gifford's 'British Film Catalogue' is indispensable. David Quinlan's 'British Sound Films - the Studio Years 1928-1959' is also very useful. Both have come down in price online over the years.

I can bring the Quinlan home and have a trawl through, if you like. I'm sure there's plenty of others.


Thanks for your reply. I'm interested, very much.
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PostFri Feb 24, 2017 3:26 pm

Another vicarage-themed film is THE HOLLY AND THE IVY (1952), with Ralph Richardson, and of course there is Robert Hamer's film of FATHER BROWN from 1954.

On a different tack, there is a recent book, 'More TV, Vicar?' which looks at the treatment of the clergy on the small screen.
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PostSat Feb 25, 2017 1:57 pm

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earlytalkiebuffRob wrote:
telical wrote:Thanks for pointing this one out. Are there any other similar British movies of this era and type that also have clergy or religious themes?


THIRD TIME LUCKY (1931) has Bobby Howes as a timid country parson who comes to the rescue of his ward who is being blackmailed as well as seduced by a couple of crooks. It's on the same site and I found it very funny indeed.

Will Hay played a gambling vicar in DANDY DICK (1935).

Denis Gifford's 'British Film Catalogue' is indispensable. David Quinlan's 'British Sound Films - the Studio Years 1928-1959' is also very useful. Both have come down in price online over the years.

I can bring the Quinlan home and have a trawl through, if you like. I'm sure there's plenty of others.


Thanks for your reply. I'm interested, very much.


Book is home now, and am finding quite a few titles. It's worth your checking up the director Norman Walker, who made THE TURN OF THE TIDE (1935) for Rank, as well as a follow-up, THE MAN AT THE GATE (1940). The latter part of his career seems to have concentrated on religious films. His JOHN WESLEY (1954), made in conjunction with the Methodist Church, is on YouTube.

There are also films which were not designed for general release, or were considered of too poor a quality to be shown in cinemas. I think it was IN OUR TIME (1933) which Rank thought too bad to give a proper release, despite his favourable attitude to the Church. Think this is going to be a very interesting task!

I have also attempted to trace some of the shorts in which Stewart Rome played 'Doctor Goodfellow', a country practitioner who imparted moral advice to filmgoers on Sundays in a series called A THOUGHT FOR THE WEEK or something similar.
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PostSun Feb 26, 2017 3:25 am

I remember seeing them at the local Odeon on a Sunday.
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PostTue Feb 28, 2017 3:07 pm

telical wrote:Thanks for pointing this one out. Are there any other similar British movies of this era and type that also have clergy or religious themes?


Because it came up in another thread, the Australian film The Silence of Dean Maitland (1934) comes to mind. Unfortunately, as noted in that thread, it's a very tricky film to track down nowadays, but well worth watching if you're able to.
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PostMon Mar 06, 2017 2:21 pm

I've not trawled through the Quinlan yet, but here are a few to be going on with:
For significant religious content, I've put an 'R' in brackets, clerical 'C', and incidental an 'I'*

MASTERSHIP / INASMUCH (1933) [R] +
FATHER O'FLYNN (1935) [C] +
MAJOR BARBARA (1941) [I]
THE TURN OF THE TIDE (1935) [R]
THE MAN AT THE GATE (1940) [R]
POISON PEN (1939) [I]
WENT THE DAY WELL? (1942) [I]
PASTOR HALL (1940) [R] +
UNDER THE GREENWOOD TREE (1929) [I]
IN A MONASTERY GARDEN (1931) [R] +
DR SYN (1937) [I]
THE VICAR OF BRAY (1937) [I]
HEAVENS ABOVE (1963) [R]
TWO A PENNY (1967) [R]
KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS (1949) [I]
THE GHOUL (1933) [I]
THEY KNEW MR KNIGHT (1945) [R] +
HARD STEEL (1941) [R] +
CROOKS IN CLOISTERS (1963) [I]

*this is only a rough guide, and I've not seen the films marked with a '+'.
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PostWed Mar 08, 2017 11:13 pm

earlytalkiebuffRob wrote:I've not trawled through the Quinlan yet, but here are a few to be going on with:
For significant religious content, I've put an 'R' in brackets, clerical 'C', and incidental an 'I'*

MASTERSHIP / INASMUCH (1933) [R] +
FATHER O'FLYNN (1935) [C] +
MAJOR BARBARA (1941) [I]
THE TURN OF THE TIDE (1935) [R]
THE MAN AT THE GATE (1940) [R]
POISON PEN (1939) [I]
WENT THE DAY WELL? (1942) [I]
PASTOR HALL (1940) [R] +
UNDER THE GREENWOOD TREE (1929) [I]
IN A MONASTERY GARDEN (1931) [R] +
DR SYN (1937) [I]
THE VICAR OF BRAY (1937) [I]
HEAVENS ABOVE (1963) [R]
TWO A PENNY (1967) [R]
KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS (1949) [I]
THE GHOUL (1933) [I]
THEY KNEW MR KNIGHT (1945) [R] +
HARD STEEL (1941) [R] +
CROOKS IN CLOISTERS (1963) [I]

*this is only a rough guide, and I've not seen the films marked with a '+'.



Thanks! This is wonderful. The first one I tried was a Youtube hit.

The Vicar of Bray (1937)(rare movie)
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PostThu Mar 09, 2017 9:11 am

No -

- but I've played Paul Temple!

(Does that count?)
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PostSun Mar 12, 2017 1:40 pm

Have started to trawl through the Quinlan and so far have:

BED AND BREAKFAST (1930)
THE CARDINAL (1936) *
CRIME ON THE HILL (1933)*
DAVID LIVINGSTONE (1936)
THE DOUBLE EVENT (1934)

Films marked * are available on DVD - Network, I think, as I have both.
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earlytalkiebuffRob wrote:I've not trawled through the Quinlan yet, but here are a few to be going on with:
For significant religious content, I've put an 'R' in brackets, clerical 'C', and incidental an 'I'*

IN OUR TIME (1933) [R] +
MASTERSHIP (1934) [R] +
INASMUCH (1934) [R] +
FATHER O'FLYNN (1935) [C] +
MAJOR BARBARA (1941) [I]
THE TURN OF THE TIDE (1935) [R]
THE MAN AT THE GATE (1940) [R]
POISON PEN (1939) [I]
WENT THE DAY WELL? (1942) [I]
PASTOR HALL (1940) [R] +
UNDER THE GREENWOOD TREE (1929) [I]
IN A MONASTERY GARDEN (1931) [R] +
DR SYN (1937) [I]
THE VICAR OF BRAY (1937) [I]
HEAVENS ABOVE (1963) [R]
TWO A PENNY (1967) [R]
KIND HEARTS AND CORONETS (1949) [I]
THE GHOUL (1933) [I]
THEY KNEW MR KNIGHT (1945) [R] +
HARD STEEL (1941) [R] +
CROOKS IN CLOISTERS (1963) [I]

*this is only a rough guide, and I've not seen the films marked with a '+'.


I've just amended the list, as I had the first two confused with the third, for which apologies. In addition, the short film mentioned elsewhere, THE COMMON ROUND (1936) should be mentioned, although it is not in Gifford. It was produced by Rank and Lady Yule's Religious Film Society. At least that CAN be seen...
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PostSat Mar 18, 2017 6:50 pm

Thanks again. Some of these have been very hard to find, a few others have turned up online.
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PostSun Mar 19, 2017 5:24 am

Watched Meet Simon Cherry last night. Good little mystery story.
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PostSun Mar 19, 2017 5:27 am

There is also a religious element in JUDGEMENT DEFERRED (1952), which was yet another reworking of director John Baxter's DOSS HOUSE (1933). I saw that one on Channel 4 in the early 1990s, so perhaps the person who has been uploading so many rare British films will do that one as well.

In addition there are quite a few parsons mentioned in the new book ELECTRIC PICTURES, but they may be more difficult to see, and in some cases may be missing.
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PostSun Mar 19, 2017 8:07 am

You have the wrong title.It is Judgment Deferred.I do have a copy of this if anyone is interested.
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PostSun Mar 19, 2017 1:15 pm

wingate wrote:You have the wrong title.It is Judgment Deferred.I do have a copy of this if anyone is interested.


Ooops! What an ass. Let me know how much, but at present I've got a hell of a lot of DVDs to catch up with as well as all the stuff online so am trying to avoid paying out much for films which I am going to take a long time to getting around to seeing. I'm going to have to do some weeding out of films bought years ago and unlikely to be played. Am catching up with stuff I've never seen at the moment, and there's a lot of that, too!

I WOULD be interested in DOSS HOUSE (1933) and SONG OF THE PLOUGH (1933) by Baxter, as well as REUNION (1932), which he had a hand in. Not to mention KENTUCKY MINSTRELS (1934), as that was preserved by the BFI also.
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