Cliffhanger Serials on Blu-ray: What do you want to see?

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Cliffhanger Serials on Blu-ray: What do you want to see?

PostMon Jun 12, 2017 5:27 pm

The last couple of years has been pretty good for revived interest in these almost forgotten Saturday matinee shorts that kept kids coming back every week to figure out how their heroes escaped certain death or the identities of the masked bad guys. While many of the major studios have a checkered history of successes and failures in maintaining their treasured legacies through nitrate decomposition, fires and even intentional destruction of film libraries over space and safety concerns, Republic's catalogue of serials and features have had better fortune. Early on, their properties were seen as having future value worth maintaining even though little was done in the way of restoration along the way.

Over the past two years, distributor Olive Films have licensed and released several of Republic's later serial efforts. Of course these later efforts were well past Republic's golden age, but in spite of the overuse of stock footage, reduced casts and other corner cutting measures, the studio's latter day serials still maintain a level of energy that representative of the studio's reputation. In recent months KINO-Lorber has gotten into the serial game, promoting restored HD transfers of two of the best from Republic's golden era, Daredevils of The Red Circle and The Adventures of Captain Marvel. Daredevils is out and looks fabulous; Captain Marvel will be released on BD later this summer. Hopefully sales will be sufficient to encourage further investment by KINO.

The question fans should be thinking about is what's next? Is there enough interest in other Republic serials to pursue licensing available film elements for more HD releases? If the answer is yes, then which of those GA Republic classics would be the logical choices, and why?

Creating a list of those I'd like to see on BD is easy assuming the 35mm film elements still exist in the Republic archives. Unfortunately, some of Republic's best serial properties were licensed for limited periods when originally filmed. These include The Drums of Fu Manchu (the rights of which is presumed retained by Sax Rohmer's estate), and the four Dick Tracy serials (the rights of which are presumed retained by the Chester Gould estate, Chicago Tribune News Syndicate or both). Republic's archives may no longer hold 35mm elements of those serials, but if they do, some would be on my "next up" wish list.

So, excluding the iffier titles ...including Captain America (great golden age Republic serial, but arguably too many liberties were taken to re-envision the comic character)... there are some real humdingers deserving of a closer look. Among them I'd toss in Spy Smasher, based on the Fawcett comic character, Fighting Devil Dogs, an over the top villain the Lightening with his hunchbacked assistant and flying wing aircraft, The Crimson Ghost, skull masked villain in a fast paced well scripted and thought out chapter-play, The Perils of Nyoka and Jungle Girl, with female leads in exotic back-lot locales, G-Men vs The Black Dragon and Secret Service in Darkest Africa, two action-packed wartime serials starring Rod Cameron and finally King of The Rocketmen, arguably the last great Republic serial and the one that fostered at least three sequels ...at least from a stock footage perspective.

In opening this up for discussion, are there other serial fans here? Anyone interested in seeing more classic cliffhangers released? And if so, which one's would you like to see provided decent quality 35mm elements are available?

While I'd love including other studio's serials in this list, the archival info on Columbia and Universal serials is spotty; film elements should be of sufficient gauge and shape to benefit from 2k/4k transfers and Blu-ray release. If someone has info about existing film elements from other studio releases that might broaden this topic, please share. There are folks reading these forums who work with distributors and studios ...such as Paramount... doing restorations and HD transfers. Down the line, our opinions might be useful and carry some weight on decisions made.
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PostTue Jun 13, 2017 11:48 am

Given how influential Spy Smasher was, I'm certain it would be a contender, provided the elements exist. You'd also have to think that a double of G-Men Vs The Black Dragon and Secret Service in Darkest Africa would be a good bet too. Speaking for myself, I'd love to see some of the ones with strong female leads get more exposure, and G-Men would be a shoo-in in that respect.

The only caveat here is the market. This is purely speculation, but I'd have to imagine that serials are not the easiest sell in today's market. I've always found that binge-watching them is less rewarding than parcelling them out individually, as they were meant to be seen, but it's not an idea that keys in well with current viewing habits. It would be terrific for TCM to have a Serial Sunday or something - even a daily screening would be nice. Anything to encourage you to regard each segment individually and to value the cliffhangers rather than just burning through them.
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PostTue Jun 13, 2017 12:14 pm

Brooksie wrote:Given how influential Spy Smasher was, I'm certain it would be a contender, provided the elements exist. You'd also have to think that a double of G-Men Vs The Black Dragon and Secret Service in Darkest Africa would be a good bet too. Speaking for myself, I'd love to see some of the ones with strong female leads get more exposure, and G-Men would be a shoo-in in that respect.

The only caveat here is the market. This is purely speculation, but I'd have to imagine that serials are not the easiest sell in today's market. I've always found that binge-watching them is less rewarding than parcelling them out individually, as they were meant to be seen, but it's not an idea that keys in well with current viewing habits. It would be terrific for TCM to have a Serial Sunday or something - even a daily screening would be nice. Anything to encourage you to regard each segment individually and to value the cliffhangers rather than just burning through them.

I watched DAREDEVILS OF THE RED CIRCLE over a six week period, 2 episodes every Wednesday night. I had never seen it, and I thought that was a good compromise. Binge watching to me causes burnout of whatever I'm watching.
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PostThu Jun 15, 2017 6:35 pm

These days I am so busy that I tend watch only an hour or thereabouts of anything a day. Most films I watch over in two to three nights. I have a huge backlog of films yet to watch. I recently bought Daredevils of the Red Circle and watched one episode a night till finished before bedtime. I like that because the current cliff hanger pops up every now in the mind during the next day and enhances the anticipation of watching the next episode. Looking forward to more of these serials as they suit my viewing experiences and find the continuity stimulating. AS for titles, I would happily watch any that are released in high definition. Makes a huge difference to the veiwing experience.
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PostFri Jun 16, 2017 10:39 am

I'm glad I got most of the Republics (passed on most of the 1947 and later) when they were released on VHS. Great 35mm transfers. I have a couple dozen serials on film but am still looking for a 16mm print of THE CRIMSON GHOST.

As for blu-ray, I'd love to see G-MEN VS. THE BLACK DRAGON and SECRET SERVICE IN DARKEST AFRICA as they both star Rod Cameron as Rex Bennett and they have incredible fight sequences. SPY SMASHER is an outstanding serial and certainly deserves a release. Early birds like ROBINSON CRUSOE ON CLIPPER ISLAND and SOS COAST GUARD might make the grade.

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Would love to see The Phantom (1943) on Blu-Ray and of course Jungle Mystery (1932) I wish Universal would release the latter since they restored it and showed it at Cinecon last year...
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PostWed Jul 19, 2017 4:02 am

Quick note: Just noticed that The Adventures of Captain Marvel (KL Blu-ray) is finally available for pre-order on Amazon with a Sept. 19 release date. Retail is currently $29.95, but that will undoubtably drop prior to release. If you haven't seen this serial, it's an exceptionally well done Republic production not to be missed. This will likely be the definitive presentation judging from KINO's superb Daredevils of the Red Circle restoration & HD transfer.

Looking forward to more serials from KL. :D
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PostTue Sep 19, 2017 12:57 pm

MaryGH wrote:Would love to see The Phantom (1943) on Blu-Ray and of course Jungle Mystery (1932) I wish Universal would release the latter since they restored it and showed it at Cinecon last year...


I'd love to see the former restored as well. Tom did a superb job portraying no nonsense square jawed costumed heroes. BTW, The Adventures of Captain Marvel has just been issued on BD by K-L at a very reasonable price point (IMO).

For serial lovers, this is a good time to let the powers-that-be know ...basically KINO-Lorber and Olive Films for the time being... that licensing, restoring and releasing these long neglected treasures on Blu-ray would be greatly appreciated and profitable enough to invest their own time and capital.
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PostTue Sep 19, 2017 2:22 pm

I'd like to see the first two Flash Gordon serials on blu-ray, and from a good source (if one even exists) Tim Tyler's Luck.
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PostWed Sep 20, 2017 10:20 am

ClayKing wrote:I'd like to see the first two Flash Gordon serials on blu-ray, and from a good source (if one even exists) Tim Tyler's Luck.


I'm sure other fans of the genre would be interested in knowing which serials exist with restorable 35mm elements. Supposedly many/most Republics were protected and are still held in trust. The best of these could be licensed and restored if there's sufficient interest. Other studio's libraries may be sketchier.

Universal's Flash Gordon has been released on DVD several times in so-so quality from grey market/PD sources (16mm or tape dupes). Do good elements exist? I have no idea which serials Universal still has archived, but if good elements exist Buster Crabbe's cliffhangers would certainly merit revisiting regardless of how often they've been offered in mediocre quality. All things considered, Tim Tyler's Luck would be a nice choice for HD/Blu-Ray because it hasn't been overexploited in the PD market.

Fingers crossed that KINO-Lorber is doing well enough profit-wise from their current serial offerings to continue licensing underexploited titles from Republic's library. I'd love to know their perspective on this. The titles mentioned in my first post would be on my most desired list for future projects if good elements are available and KINO is open to consumer input.
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PostWed Sep 20, 2017 9:22 pm

On the Home Theater Forum Wade Williams posted that he intends to release "Buck Rogers" on blu-ray. He also announced intention to release other films he owns the rights to, including 3D blu-rays of "Robot Monster" and "Cat Women of the Moon."
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PostThu Sep 21, 2017 2:43 am

ClayKing wrote:On the Home Theater Forum Wade Williams posted that he intends to release "Buck Rogers" on blu-ray. He also announced intention to release other films he owns the rights to, including 3D blu-rays of "Robot Monster" and "Cat Women of the Moon."


That's great news; hope he can pull it together. The more serials and genre SF on Blu-ray the merrier. :)
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PostFri Sep 22, 2017 5:15 am

Despite any of its shortcomings, CAPTAIN AMERICA (1943) has my vote. Dick Purcell is a great hero and the lovely Lorna Gray is great in this action serial.
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PostMon Sep 25, 2017 2:13 pm

Marr&Colton wrote:Despite any of its shortcomings, CAPTAIN AMERICA (1943) has my vote. Dick Purcell is a great hero and the lovely Lorna Gray is great in this action serial.

CAPTAIN AMERICA would be near the top of my list too.

Also:
BATMAN((1943)

THE CRIMSON GHOST

THE PHANTOM CREEPS

SPY SMASHER

ATOM MAN VS. SUPERMAN

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PostTue Sep 26, 2017 1:45 pm

Agree about all of the Republics (at least the ones Paramount still owns the rights to, which are most of them)--they would all make great blu rays. Supposedly, most of the Columbia serials (again, the ones they still own the rights to) exist in their vaults...they've released the two Batman serials and The Shadow on DVDs and The Blackhawk on VHS.

Universal, I'm not too sure about. I suspect they didn't retain vault materials on their serials. The Flash Gordons are owned by Hearst and the quality of their prints can be judged from the old Image official DVDs. The best looking Universal serials that I've seen on disc (DVD) were the Green Hornet titles from VCI. Would love to know where those stellar prints came from! Universal? I doubt it.

Bottom line for me are the classic Republic titles from the late 30s-mid 40s. I would die happy to see all of those released on blu. They are the Cadillacs in my opinion, from the stunts to the special effects.
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PostTue Sep 26, 2017 3:07 pm

ClayKing wrote:On the Home Theater Forum Wade Williams posted that he intends to release "Buck Rogers" on blu-ray.

I still remember coming home from grade school in the 50's and watching Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon serials. I would love to have a good copy of both on blu-ray. I'd also like to see the Crusader Rabbit cartoon serials, if they even exist.
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PostSat Oct 28, 2017 11:25 am

As we're approaching the holiday season, this thread deserves a little bump.

If you're contemplating giving film entertainment to friends and/or family (...ergo DVDs or BDs), my lobbying ...for serials, not cards... is directed toward consumers of the KINO-Lorber and Olive releases currently available.

My rationale is that the continued support of these efforts may convince one or both distributors to loosen their purse-strings enough to license more chapter plays from the existing Republic archived 35mm elements & negatives.

Just food for thought to grease the wheels of our merry little wish list.

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