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Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:06 am
by Michael O'Regan
Is the B&W version available?

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:57 am
by Ray Faiola
I have a 16mm print of the B&W version but I do not believe it has ever been commercially released. MGM/UA's first VHS release was the color print.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:47 pm
by Michael O'Regan
I would love a 16mm print but it's unlikely to happen. I watched the colour version last night for the third or fourth time and there developed a craving for the B&W version. Oh well! I'm sure it'll turn up at some point.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm
by earlytalkiebuffRob
It was shown several times on BBC2 and Channel 4 over here in England in the 1970s and 1980s, so an off-air VHS is probably your best bet. I may have a copy somewhere, so will let you know...

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:13 pm
by Michael O'Regan
Thanks for the thought. Unfortunately, I no longer have a VHS player.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:39 pm
by bobfells
FWIW, the b/w version was run often on WPIX-TV channel 11 in NYC back in the 60s and 70s. The color version was believed lost at that time, as was any version of MYSTERY OF THE WAX MUSEUM. Both were later found in Jack Warner's collection after his death.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:31 am
by Jack Theakston
Warner Bros. still has the 35mm negative on the B&W version, I believe. Would love to see that in 35mm, although the chances of a print getting struck are probably next to nil.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:50 am
by 2 Reel
The two-color version from the UCLA Restoration is available for legal viewing anytime on Archive.org at this link:
https://archive.org/details/DoctorX1932" target="_blank".

Directed by Michael Curtiz with his fascinating play with light and shadow, masterful quick-cut reactions, unusual camera angles, and spot-on casting, the horror movie still packs a few genuine chills.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:11 am
by moviepas
Both these Warner 2-strip Technicolor films were on Laserdisc which I still have buried somewhere. Haven't used a Laserdisc in many years. May not play now, even if the machine does.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:39 am
by Scoundrel
The two color version of DOCTOR X was released in the Legends of Horror box set:

https://www.amazon.com/Hollywoods-Legends-Horror-Collection-Vampire/dp/B000GRUQJW

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:41 am
by The Blackbird
Fay Wray, Lionel Atwill, Lee Tracy, Arthur Edmund Carewe... as far as I'm concerned, this movie has everything. It's interesting that the black and white version uses different takes from the colour one.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:51 am
by Michael O'Regan
The Blackbird wrote: It's interesting that the black and white version uses different takes from the colour one.

Indeed, which is why I'm interested in seeing it.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:11 am
by BixB
Michael O'Regan wrote:
The Blackbird wrote: It's interesting that the black and white version uses different takes from the colour one.

Indeed, which is why I'm interested in seeing it.


Exactly. It makes for a very interesting comparison. There's even variations in the dialogue. I had hoped that it would be an extra when Warner's released the DVD or if TCM would run them back to back. They've done that with the British and American versions of GASLIGHT several times.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:04 am
by Jay Salsberg
The old Ken Films 8mm release from the 1970s was mastered from the b/w version.
According to a member of this group who has seen both feature versions (and I'll let him chime in if he wishes) there are only very slight differences in dialogue, most of which occur during the first reel.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:12 pm
by Christopher Jacobs
I saw the B&W version back in the 70s and thought it was just an okay horror film (before I had developed a taste for Lee Tracy). I saw it again at a convention sometime in the past decade after having seen the restored color version (which I like a lot). The B&W version seemed barely distinguishable for the most part (except for being in B&W) although it also didn't seem to quite have the same sense of fun, which might have been due to using second-best takes here and there. I think the original 2-color Technicolor version is the definitive one to see, with the B&W being a mere curiosity. It's some of the best 2-color Tech cinematography surviving and the film is loaded with Precode innuendos and spooky art design/angles that just play better in color. And then of course there's Fay Wray and Glenda Farrell in color!!

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:58 am
by Donald Binks
I had a very much cut down version of this film in silent monochrome (with some sub-titles) on 8mm back in the late 1960's. It had never been shown on TV in Oz and was highly unlikely to have been either. In those days I thought I would never, ever see the complete version - let alone see it in the two-colour Technicolor. It was a revelation when I eventually saw it about 2003 or so. Not a masterpiece, it is over-shadowed by the "Mystery of the Wax Museum", but nevertheless there is plenty of atmosphere in it and the synthetic skin business is just plain mad.

Re: Doctor X (32)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:06 am
by precode
We ran the B&W version at the 1986 Cinecon; the differences tend to be subtle but are quite noticeable. Unless Warners does a Blu-Ray and decides to include both versions, my suggestion is to write TCM and ask them to air it.

Mike S.