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Similar experience here. I've only seen 35mm film on flea markets / in shops three times that I can remember. Twice it was with some sort of projector. So you may try to look for toy projectors.FlammableNitrate wrote:Where do people usually look for lost films from around the early 1900's - 1920's? I've been around flea markets and antique shops and haven't found anything from the silent era. No posters, no magazines, no nitrate. Where would be the best place to start looking?
You live upside down I believe, which - for a lost film/tv perspective - has the advantage that it's the end of the line. A lot of UK television went your way as well that would be really really welcome if ever recovered.Donald Binks wrote:Probably the only way you are going to find something that is of any interest or value is by finding someone who has collected films or someone who has worked with films such as a projectionist who has "forgotten" to return the film. As the years go by the chances of finding someone still alive from the era of interest also dims.
In the 1990's I managed to track down a projectionist, through word of mouth, the "phone book and basic detective work - who had a nitrate print in his possession of Richard Tauber's "End of the Rainbow". This film had been thought lost and yet he had had an excellent nitrate print of it since 1931.
There is a possibility that films are still being stored in attics, sheds and the like - but with the passage of time and incorrect storage methods, the chances now of finding anything intact are at huge odds against.
One has to be optimistic though and live in hope - so, I wish you luck!
Well, if you ever find 16mm in a can that says "BBC TV enterprises", then it might be worth it just to have a quick look.Donald Binks wrote:I don't have any knowledge of TV programming I'm afraid.
Rob Koeling wrote:Have a look under your bed!
One of my favourite stories of the discovery of a lost film is the one about 'Erdgeist' (L. Jessner, 1923). A Dutch painter Pyke Koch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyke_Koch was a big fan of Asta Nielsen and apparently he kept a nitrate copy of the film 'Erdgeist' under his bed (where else?). After his death this print ended up at the Nederlandse Filmmuseum and I think it is the only known print (although there is a fragment of the film with Russian intertitles on Youtube, so that might not be accurate).
His portrait of Asta Nielsen: http://www.mediamatic.net/68118/en/portret-asta-door-pyke-koch-jpg
barry byrne wrote:On this side of the Atlantic, the film distributors seem to have been very, very careful that no prints ever went unreturned. Sadly then spare or worn out prints went for processing/destruction. Only once have I ever seen 35mm prints in an available situation. About 15 years ago going to an important meeting I passed a skip/dumpster with film reels among office items. Could not carry away what seemed to be advertising films from a closed or moved company, nor could I have reasonably have brought them with me, given the importance of the meeting anyhow. As you may guess, they were gone on the return trip.
Exactly. And they have never stopped finding them, although sometimes just one or two at a time. And if I have managed to trace a few, then so can others.boblipton wrote:Well, Spiny, the way Ron Hutchinson tells the story, that's how the Vitaphone Project started:an old-movie buff was visiting a record collector who showed him some weird discs....
Spiny Norman wrote:And in rare cases, a show can survive as picture but without audio (because of technical trouble/foreign dub/unfinished footage). And there a home recorded audio tape could really save the day. Chances of finding some or probably bigger than for a lost movie.
And in rare cases, a show can survive as picture but without audio (because of technical trouble/foreign dub/unfinished footage). And there a home recorded audio tape could really save the day. Chances of finding some or probably bigger than for a lost movie.
Doesn't most or almost all of it still exist?Mike Gebert wrote:And in rare cases, a show can survive as picture but without audio (because of technical trouble/foreign dub/unfinished footage). And there a home recorded audio tape could really save the day. Chances of finding some or probably bigger than for a lost movie.
That Was the Week That Was, the 60s satirical show best known for 1) introducing David Frost to America and 2) a bunch of Tom Lehrer songs, is a lost show-- except that Dennis Atkinson found the pilot (which was on film), and donated it to LOC, and some fan audio-recorded the shows as they aired.
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