Tweet Warner digitally restores Casablanca. Again...

It may well have a "sterling rep as a classic", but my opinion is that it is just about, if not below, average. It's routine stuff.
Nobody else needs to agree. I'll live with it.

So I guess if Casablanca had starred Buster Keaton, you'd have been totally out on it!

I guess so, yeah...though I'm not sure what the relevance of such a hypothetical situation is.

I don't particularly enjoy Casablanca and I don't particularly enjoy Keaton - so what?

Just a little joke. Everyone's welcome to their own likes and dislikes.

Just a little joke. Everyone's welcome to their own likes and dislikes.

OK.
I thought I detected sarcasm.
My apologies.

Just a little joke. Everyone's welcome to their own likes and dislikes.

OK.
I thought I detected sarcasm.
My apologies.

I suspect my reaction to "The Passion of Joan of Arc, starring Charlie Chaplin!!" would be hilarious. For the nanosecond you'd see me before I fled the room.

I suspect my reaction to "The Passion of Joan of Arc, starring Charlie Chaplin!!" would be hilarious. For the nanosecond you'd see me before I fled the room.

Charlie might serve to pile the faggots, but the star must be Polly Moran.

Just a little joke. Everyone's welcome to their own likes and dislikes.

OK.
I thought I detected sarcasm.
My apologies.

I suspect my reaction to "The Passion of Joan of Arc, starring Charlie Chaplin!!" would be hilarious. For the nanosecond you'd see me before I fled the room.

I might manage a titter or two...

I suspect my reaction to "The Passion of Joan of Arc, starring Charlie Chaplin!!" would be hilarious. For the nanosecond you'd see me before I fled the room.

I might manage a titter or two...

Me too.

Oh wait. You meant something different, didn't you?

I want to see Casablanca with the parts of Humphrey Bogart and Peter Lorre switched...

Comparisom of old and new Casablanca BD on DVD Beaver:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_ ... lu-ray.htm

Despite more organic, the 70Th still look a bit less grainy than what we could expect for a a film from 1942.

There are some very tiny fuzzy scratchs in the new 70TH edition BD, that wasn't present in the 2008 BD. See the Ingrid Bergman close-up captures after the Ivone at bar capture.

In this same capture, in the background, it make state: Blu Ray encoders still do not deal well with grain. We see no true grain, but some artefacts sprkles that some people likes to think it's grain.


Now I want to see Warner restore Roman Holiday or Sunset Boulevard in 4K. At the time Lowry digital restored these two movies, nobody had figured how to recover image detail from 2th or 3th generation dupes.
Today... I'm not sure if the comercial available softwares can help Roman Holiuday like Lowry process helped.


Grain reduction it's still a hard task for the comercially available softwares. Lady or a Day it's a example of heavy grain that was reduced.

See capture number four:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_ ... lu-ray.htm"

The suit get the lines a bit soft or erased. [b]
This is a great restoration, since was a dupe negative made from a print, Capra's personal print. But HD it's a huge challenge to grain reduction, and despite the tools get better it's still difficult to deal.

Pardon my ignorance...

What is TCM Theatrical projection ?

You talk like had called some teenagers to watch the new BD on a home digital projection...

Just got back from the screening. First, the program started 30 minutes late because the entire staff of 12 year olds couldn't figure out how to run the digital projection. We sat there interminably and stared at the digital dish menus while the entire staff was in the booth trying to get it to go. They ALMOST showed us "The Bodyguard"! The audience was NOT amused. When it did finally start, we got about 2/3 of the way through the bonus introduction and the kid decided that no one wanted to see it, so he fast forwards to the beginning of the movie. After the screening, the manager hid because so many people were asking for refunds. I will never attend a Fathom special event at that theater.

I will say that the film looked and sounded fantastic! The photography was amazing, little character touches that you've never seen before. Yes, it was a little darker than I remember, but it looked wonderful. Well done WB.

[b]Now I want to see Warner restore Roman Holiday or Sunset Boulevard in 4K. At the time Lowry digital restored these two movies, nobody had figured how to recover image detail from 2th or 3th generation dupes.
Today... I'm not sure if the comercial available softwares can help Roman Holiuday like Lowry process helped.

It would be a waste of their money since Paramount owns those two films.

Sure !!!

I should said: ... restore a film like Roman Holiday and Sunset Boulevard...

Lowry process it's expansive, and was even more 8 years ago, cause was the only able to compare the image grain by grain. It used 500 computers to process the data, beacuse the algorithym was very complex.

Today we have computers with 10 cores. Maybe it's time to some company develop a comercial grain reduction system for 60 computers process the data. It's a expansive hardware, but it could "save the day" of many films.

I don't botter with grain reduction if it's well made, cause many films have large grain in excess due survive generations away from camera negative. After reduced finelly, a small grain pattern can be added if wish.

What we all see of grain in BD editions it's not true grain anyway... just artefacts...
There is no real film experience for video yet.

[b]Now I want to see Warner restore Roman Holiday or Sunset Boulevard in 4K. At the time Lowry digital restored these two movies, nobody had figured how to recover image detail from 2th or 3th generation dupes. Today... I'm not sure if the comercial available softwares can help Roman Holiuday like Lowry process helped.

It would be a waste of their money since Paramount owns those two films.

Woody Allen's Play It Again, Sam is about a man (played by Allen)
so obsessed with Humphrey Bogart in general and
Casablanca in particular that he imagines Humphrey Bogart
giving him advice about women.

Did Casablanca became a classic around the time of this
movie?

Woody Allen's Play It Again, Sam is about a man (played by Allen) so obsessed with Humphrey Bogart in general and Casablanca in particular that he imagines Humphrey Bogart giving him advice about women.

Did Casablanca became a classic around the time of this movie?

It was based on Allen's 1969 stage play, and yes, the late-60s to early-70s saw a huge revival of interest not only in Bogart, but W.C. Fields and the Marx. Bros, particularly among the college crowd.

I'd much rather see THE BIG PARADE, and THE CROWD. SHOW PEOPLE too. Where's that three film, hopefully more King Vidor Silents Box set? God I'm sick of CASABLANCA!!! How many DVD releases has it had? And this is the second Blu-ray correct? I like the film, but as Clarence said it's been played to stinking death.

Thank heavens one of you mentioned those Colleen Moore films over in Italy.

I've seen Casablanca so may times on TV and at the cinema that I don't even have a DVD of it. The latest greatest version I don't think will tempt me to buy it. Too many other films to buy and watch.

Does anybody knows if this 4K restoration was made from the original camera negative???

I am to understand that the camera negative
no longer exists.