Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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wich2 wrote:
Red Bartlett wrote:
wich2 wrote:Not much to laugh at in the reporting in that article.
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I guess... if egotistical and arrested development sexist tyrants are one's idea of charming chuckle fodder.
Actually, comedic situations arise from strange circumstances, such as those. For example, arrested development is practically mandatory these days. Boyish characters (which were once-upon-a-time, interesting contrasts to reality) have become as predictable as my train schedule.

Here's an article with a different perspective on Hugh Hefner's legacy than the slasher posted earlier. It gets political, but that's what you get in the industry these days http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/c ... ia-1044769

"I would hope that people could see the positives in the Playboy sexual landscape — the foregrounding of pleasure and fun and humor. Sex is not a tragedy, it's a comedy!"

He could have easily been a jerk too. But you have to consider all of these a possibility.

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Unread post by Harlowgold » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:33 pm

I appreciate the fact that he financed in part a lot of the TCM documentaries on Hollywood sex queens, some of which might not have been otherwise produced (particularly those of non-MGM or WB stars such as Clara Bow) however I am a little troubled by him buying the crypt next to Marilyn Monroe, who of course did not give her permission for her 1940's nudie shot to be published in the first issue of Playboy in the mid 50's. That was rather a violation of her privacy and control over her own image even if it had been published before when she was unknown. I don't think she'd be particularly happy to learn of her new neighbor.

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Red Bartlett wrote:He could have easily been a jerk too.
Ya think?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4587866/h ... y-mansion/

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Unread post by Mike Gebert » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:51 pm

who of course did not give her permission for her 1940's nudie shot to be published in the first issue of Playboy in the mid 50's.
This is going around as if it represents some unusual creepy thing. Well, there's plenty of creepy in the modeling business, but nothing unusual here. She signed a model release to the photographer, and Hefner bought the pictures from him a few years later.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:00 pm

When I did my film night here a few moons back, I thought it would be good to put on some advertising slides during the interval. One of those interested in having one was the local kindergarten. The girl doing it took a long time - because - as I found out later - she had to get the parent's permission for each of the children she had in the photograph. I must admit I was rather astounded she had to do this, but apparently it is the law now. Apparently if one is down the seaside with one's camera and takes a few landscape photos to record the adventure - and then one manages to include a child in the view, albeit without purposefully doing so, one can be up before the Magistrate! We are certainly going overboard in this 21st Century!
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I see your point - but as usual, it's all about Balance...

Sir Donald, if you found your handsome visage (but perhaps, in an unfaltering moment?) plastered over the page of a national magazine w/o your permission, I wonder if you'd be taken aback?

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Unread post by boblipton » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:16 pm

wich2 wrote:I see your point - but as usual, it's all about Balance...

Sir Donald, if you found your handsome visage (but perhaps, in an unfaltering moment?) plastered over the page of a national magazine w/o your permission, I wonder if you'd be taken aback?

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I know that a few years ago I was walking into my building when a tourist asked if he could take my picture. I told him I would rather he didn't. He looked surprised, but didn't. Dutch accent.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:19 pm

wich2 wrote:I see your point - but as usual, it's all about Balance...

Sir Donald, if you found your handsome visage (but perhaps, in an unfaltering moment?) plastered over the page of a national magazine w/o your permission, I wonder if you'd be taken aback?

-Craig
Handsome visage? You jest! :D My youngest brother had taken a rather unflattering photo of me some time back. Imagine my horror when I discovered he had published it in a book - a collection of photos he had taken. My only concern, apart from the initial shock was that I would have to bludgeon him severely for not giving me a cheque for my share of the royalties!
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

Unread post by Red Bartlett » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:23 pm

wich2 wrote:
Red Bartlett wrote:He could have easily been a jerk too.
Ya think?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4587866/h ... y-mansion/
Jokes are never as funny when you have to explain the punchline... but the humor in all this is that anyone is surprised.

(It's still kind of funny though!)

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Unread post by telical » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:37 pm

Let's not give Hugh Hefner credit for inventing sex.

It was seen as a sacred thing that united families together and provide both spectrums of influences in the household, male and female.

The atrocities happening in the news were once reserve for the fields of war. Now modern culture has made it a random occurrence anyone may be victim to.

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Unread post by Mike Gebert » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:35 pm

The Paglia piece Red Bartlett linked is terrific. Doesn't matter if you agree with any of it or not, it's just fun to be challenged by the lively, indomitable Ms. Paglia.
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Re: Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

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She's a smart woman, always worth hearing. (She's also an intentional bomb-thrower, from way back!)

Balance in all things -

I think that Hugh Hefner wanted us to see him as "Cary Grant - just freer." I also think that in reality he was as much, "Larry Flynt - just glossier."

- the truth, as usual, is some of both.

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"Everyone wants to be Cary Grant. Even I want to be Cary Grant." —Cary Grant
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Ya know, when I started this thread to post the link to the Times obit, I didn't realize it would be this "popular".

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To coin a phrase, Bob -

- "Sex Sells"!

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Hefner Readies For His Close-up

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The Chicagoan's alleged one-time choice for his own biopic was his Winnetkan pal, Hugh O'Brien.
Brett Ratner has other ideas. Early reporting suggests the film will be released
in both Imax and Double-D.
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>in both Imax and Double-D<

...with Viagra and coke at the door!

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Hugh Hefner, Silent Movie Fan, Dead at 91

Unread post by JFK » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:14 pm

Depending on whether the focus is on his "philosophy" or sexuality - viewing glasses will be either stained or steamed.

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Unread post by Jim Roots » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:18 pm

JFK wrote: Depending on whether the focus is on his "philosophy" or sexuality - viewing glasses will be either stained or steamed.
And the movie will be filmed in 43D vision.

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