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ROMEO & JULIET [1936] - a musical question

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 12:22 pm
by brendangcarroll
The Capulet Ball scene is my favourite sequence in this film:

https://youtu.be/ln3oOvjjxQ0



However, I cannot place where I have heard the music we hear,before, even though it is very familiar.

Does anyone here know?

Please advise, if you do. Thanks.

Re: ROMEO & JULIET [1936] - a musical question

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:38 pm
by boblipton
Sounds vaguely like Arbeau, but I can't recall the particular piece. Maybe it's been rearranged for the production.

Bob

Re: ROMEO & JULIET [1936] - a musical question

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:51 pm
by brendangcarroll
The Arbeau Pavane from Orchesographie is indeed used in Stothart's score for this movie, in the romanticised arrangement by Peter Warlock from his Capriol Suite (and very much altered by Stothart with extra strings and harp) but that piece isn't what we hear during the dance sequence here. It usually occurs whenever Shearer appears (like a kind of leitmotif).

So I wonder where I heard the dance music before? It's so annoying. I am sure it is English. That's all I can say.

But thanks for the reply.

Re: ROMEO & JULIET [1936] - a musical question

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 3:58 pm
by boblipton
I thought you meant the chorale work.

Bob

Re: ROMEO & JULIET [1936] - a musical question

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:18 pm
by Mike Gebert
The words are different and the arrangement is very different, but I think the tune is sort of cribbed from Thomas Weelkes' Welcome Sweet Pleasure:



Listen to the part that comes in right at the minute mark in the clip from the 1936 movie; it's the most similar.

Re: ROMEO & JULIET [1936] - a musical question

Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 12:50 am
by brendangcarroll
Mike, you are a genius! That is definitely it!

Thank you so much for solving what has bugged me for years! Of course it is totally rearranged and romanticised in the MGM manner but it's definitely the same piece.

best wishes

BRENDAN CARROLL