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Unread post by Harlett O'Dowd » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:40 am

D'oh!

I was all set to watch the Blu of NAPOLEON for this year's "watch that movie night" only to learn the hard way that though my DVD player is region free, my Blu apparently is not.

Any suggestions on what to invest in going forward?

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Unread post by Paul Penna » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:00 am

A friend has a Sony Blu-Ray player (don't know the model, unfortunately) that's been made region-free and has worked for him flawlessly. I see that Bombay Electronics, from whom I got my pricey region-free Oppo, advertises a Sony for $99.

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Unread post by Mike Gebert » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:41 am

I got both of mine from 220 as well. You pay a little more but they support them, unlike if you buy something at Target where they'd say "Region what?"
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Unread post by Danny Burk » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:53 pm

Me too - Oppo from 220. Love it.

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Unread post by R Michael Pyle » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:34 pm

Me, too. LG from 220, and all the LGs are on sale presently.

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Unread post by Rick Lanham » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:00 pm

I'm using the Seiki SR4KP1 blu-ray player, which used to be available from B & H; https://www.bhphotovideo.com" target="_blank

I've had no problems with it.

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Unread post by Daniel Eagan » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:06 pm

Sony BDP-S5200 from Bombay Electronics. Very pleased.

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Unread post by Claus Harding » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:42 pm

Oppo 203, fully modded from 220. Works beautifully, not just in terms of playing every variation of disc I can throw at it, but also because of its high-quality upscaling.

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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:50 am

Also an Oppo user. You have to manually change the region for blu-rays, which is a simple matter of entering a code and rebooting, and I haven't yet come across a disc it wouldn't play.

Also great for many hi-def audio formats (DVD-A, HDCD, SACD, blu-ray audio and so on).
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Unread post by Arndt » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:04 am

Alternatively, if you do not mind having two machines sitting on your shelf, buy a European blu-ray player and play your imported disks with that one.
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Unread post by Daniel Eagan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:55 am

Those wanting to purchase an Oppo player better hurry up, the company announced its departure from the market: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/oppo-dig ... 38961.html" target="_blank

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Unread post by Danny Burk » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:36 pm

That's a shame. Best player I've ever had.

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Unread post by milefilms » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:31 am

Went to buy an Oppo at Bombay Electronics yesterday, in anticipation that I will have to buy a 4K TV soon enough for work, but they have sold out. World-Imports still has some for about the same price.
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Unread post by Danny Burk » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:09 pm

milefilms wrote:Went to buy an Oppo at Bombay Electronics yesterday, in anticipation that I will have to buy a 4K TV soon enough for work, but they have sold out. World-Imports still has some for about the same price.
Thanks for the notification. I decided I'd better have a backup in case mine konks out, so a 4K is on the way from World. Not that I have any 4K discs, but since my television is compatible, I may as well buy one and see what it looks like.

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Unread post by Mitch Farish » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:15 pm

Danny Burk wrote:
milefilms wrote:Went to buy an Oppo at Bombay Electronics yesterday, in anticipation that I will have to buy a 4K TV soon enough for work, but they have sold out. World-Imports still has some for about the same price.
Thanks for the notification. I decided I'd better have a backup in case mine konks out, so a 4K is on the way from World. Not that I have any 4K discs, but since my television is compatible, I may as well buy one and see what it looks like.
Can't afford a new one. Mine is a BDP 93 zone-free. Still hanging in there. Great machine for upscaling.

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Unread post by Daniel Eagan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:42 am

Bombay Electronics sale on region-free DVD players, 15% off with code BLURAY15 through June 18. Prices from $99 up.

https://www.bombayelectronics.com/colle ... ray-player" target="_blank

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Unread post by SilentsPlease » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:57 am

Those who are not technically inclined should note that these multi-region features are almost always NOT made by the original manufacturers, but by independent resellers or just average joes who modify the players via some quasi-legal means to add multi-region functions. If you buy a Samsung multi-region Blu-ray player on Ebay, you do not get any warranty or service from Samsung. You are only getting what that Ebay seller promised you, and you are to rely on nothing but the workmanship and trustworthiness of that seller. If you are really technically inclined, you can try to modify a player yourself. You can buy a legitimate, store-bought player with all the warranty and service that come with it (but with region restriction, of course), then go online and find out how to modify it to get multi-region (and you void your warranty upon doing so, of course). I did it with my LG BH200 player many years ago. Older players are more hackable and easier to modify. But newer players are more secure and may require more complicated and shadier means such as part replacements. And be prepared to pay more, of course, as these people need to make a living. If a legit store-bought player with region restriction costs $50, a modified multi-region version of that player could cost $100. But many people would be willing to pay that money (not to mention, tread that shady, quasi-legal water) to get all-region access.
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Unread post by Mike Gebert » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:34 am

I have paid the modest premium to 220 Electronics, precisely to have a minimal degree of support. I have never had any issues, though I've forgotten the exact spell to cast via remote a couple of times and they've walked me through it. But yeah, do it in the way that you feel comfortable doing.

The quasi-legality is not really legality. It is not illegal to own or watch a region free disc you paid money for in a country where they're legally sold. It's more on the order of a restaurant telling you you can't get fries in place of chips on the combo. 8)
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Unread post by Danny Burk » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:12 am

I've also bought two modified Oppo players from 220 Electronics. No complaints whatever; everything was ready to go, out of the box, and very easy to use. I'd recommend them to anyone who asks.

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Unread post by SilentsPlease » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:14 am

Mike Gebert wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:34 am
I have paid the modest premium to 220 Electronics, precisely to have a minimal degree of support. I have never had any issues, though I've forgotten the exact spell to cast via remote a couple of times and they've walked me through it. But yeah, do it in the way that you feel comfortable doing.

The quasi-legality is not really legality. It is not illegal to own or watch a region free disc you paid money for in a country where they're legally sold. It's more on the order of a restaurant telling you you can't get fries in place of chips on the combo. 8)
But it IS illegal to make unauthorized modifications on an equipment and sell it for profit. There are counterfeit laws everywhere so it is illegal on that ground alone. In some cases, this is circumvented by the fact that some players are modified in ways that may not be called modification per se, such as pressing a few buttons on the remote to bring up undocumented, hidden menus that let you change region, or things of that nature. But other types of modifications involve actually changing software (firmware) and/or hardware parts, and that definitely crosses legal lines. You are free to modify whatever on your own, provided that you don't re-sell it as your product. Some sellers get around this by selling only the method to modify the player, but not the modified player itself. I don't know if that crosses the legal line or not. Some sellers avoid mentioning any modification and just sell the multi-region players. We need to fact the fact and call it what it is, that these are ALL circumventions of the law and not exactly legal.

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