Nero and Agrippina (1914) - the unseen epic

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Nero and Agrippina (1914) - the unseen epic

Unread post by Spiny Norman » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:56 pm

Apparently this Italian import had the misfortune to come out just before Cabiria so it was quickly eclipsed.

From all the 'epics' of the time, this is the only one that really hasn't turned up again, even though it seems to survive almost intact. All the other Cleopatras and Pompeiis are now here or there somewhere, but not this one.

Anyone ever seen it?

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Re: Nero and Agrippina (1914) - the unseen epic

Unread post by fredhedges » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:40 am

Is this the one you're looking for?
https://howlingpixel.com/i-en/Mario_Caserini

Now that I look further, I guess it isn't. The Caserini film was produced by Gloria Film (according to Italian Wikipedia) while the above video was from Cines.

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Re: Nero and Agrippina (1914) - the unseen epic

Unread post by Spiny Norman » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:26 pm

fredhedges wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:40 am
Is this the one you're looking for?
https://howlingpixel.com/i-en/Mario_Caserini

Now that I look further, I guess it isn't. The Caserini film was produced by Gloria Film (according to Italian Wikipedia) while the above video was from Cines.
Well spotted! Unfortunately that site is jumping to the wrong conclusion. That picture is an earlier "Agrippina", a much shorter 1911 story.

Also, while everyone is always crediting Caserini for one of the last days of Pompeii in 1913, it is uncertain if that's correct. He isn't listed for it in Bianco e Nero, the Italian bible for silent films.
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Re: Nero and Agrippina (1914) - the unseen epic

Unread post by Spiny Norman » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:42 pm

Also, I wonder if anyone knows of a place where I could find a bigger copy of this poster:

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I'd like to use it as an illustration, but it's nowhere to be found.
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Re: Nero and Agrippina (1914) - the unseen epic

Unread post by boblipton » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:52 pm

Spiny Norman wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:26 pm
fredhedges wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:40 am
Is this the one you're looking for?
https://howlingpixel.com/i-en/Mario_Caserini

Now that I look further, I guess it isn't. The Caserini film was produced by Gloria Film (according to Italian Wikipedia) while the above video was from Cines.
Well spotted! Unfortunately that site is jumping to the wrong conclusion. That picture is an earlier "Agrippina", a much shorter 1911 story.

Also, while everyone is always crediting Caserini for one of the last days of Pompeii in 1913, it is uncertain if that's correct. He isn't listed for it in Bianco e Nero, the Italian bible for silent films.
I believe the 1911 film is the one I recently reviewed on 26 September at

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25410&p=210610&hilit=Nero#p210610

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Re: Nero and Agrippina (1914) - the unseen epic

Unread post by Spiny Norman » Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:05 am

boblipton wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:52 pm
Spiny Norman wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:26 pm
fredhedges wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:40 am
Is this the one you're looking for?
https://howlingpixel.com/i-en/Mario_Caserini

Now that I look further, I guess it isn't. The Caserini film was produced by Gloria Film (according to Italian Wikipedia) while the above video was from Cines.
Well spotted! Unfortunately that site is jumping to the wrong conclusion. That picture is an earlier "Agrippina", a much shorter 1911 story.

Also, while everyone is always crediting Caserini for one of the last days of Pompeii in 1913, it is uncertain if that's correct. He isn't listed for it in Bianco e Nero, the Italian bible for silent films.
I believe the 1911 film is the one I recently reviewed on 26 September at

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25410&p=210610&hilit=Nero#p210610

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Definitely. And they had a lot of that stuff around 1909-1914. Nero's poisoner Locusta even got her own spin-off! Many have only recently become available again, but this is really the last one left unseen. (I am writing something about Nero in all of this at the moment.)

I don't know who creates that "howlingpixel" content, but they got it wrong.
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