1918-1919 Influenza Pandemic Effects

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Unread post by Brooksie » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:48 am

There was an anecdote about Mary Pickford's tangle with the disease before TCM's showing of The Hoodlum (1919) this evening. In following it up, I came across this - http://mentalfloss.com/article/58376/14 ... u-pandemic. Aside from Pickford and Lillian Gish, it's interesting how many major world leaders came down with it in the last stages of WW1 - the Kaiser, British PM Lloyd George, Woodrow Wilson, General Pershing, and the then-Secretary of the Navy Franklyn Roosevelt.

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Unread post by linquist » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:47 pm

Has anyone come across any information on whether Theda Bara came down with the Spanish Influenza? I came across an article in Moving PIcture World magazine that surprised me. This is the October 5, 1918 edition. The first references in this magazine to the flu (that I know of) were in this edition. At the beginning of the news section, there was a small article about how to prevent the spread of the "Spanish Influenza" and the theater owners reaction to the advice as an attempt to ward off a replay of the theater closings that had been caused by infantile paralysis outbreak two years earlier. There is no references to deaths or city shutdowns in the magazine at this time and most of the news is dated from late September. The major outbreak came in October.

Then, in a section called "News In Los Angeles and Vicinity," there is a small article titled "Bara Suffers From Prostration:"
"Theda Bara, who was expecting to complete her fifth picture and be on her way east at the expiration of her six months' stay in Los Angeles, came down with a case of complete prostration two days before the date set for her departure. She was so ill that her reservations on the Salt Lake had to be canceled and her trip postponed until she recovered sufficiently to travel. Besides the nurses and physicians who were called on the case, Lora Bara, the star's sister, had been in constant attendance."

Now, this could be other things but "nurses and physicians" sound similar to the way Lilian Gish described her treatment for the flu. I have not read enough about the pandemic to know if it occurred at all in LA by late September. The general historical comments are that it started out east and moved west. But who knows who she came in contact with. So I'm just wondering if anyone knows about this episode.

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Unread post by Rick Lanham » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:27 pm

linquist wrote:Has anyone come across any information on whether Theda Bara came down with the Spanish Influenza? I came across an article in Moving PIcture World magazine that surprised me. This is the October 5, 1918 edition. The first references in this magazine to the flu (that I know of) were in this edition. At the beginning of the news section, there was a small article about how to prevent the spread of the "Spanish Influenza" and the theater owners reaction to the advice as an attempt to ward off a replay of the theater closings that had been caused by infantile paralysis outbreak two years earlier. There is no references to deaths or city shutdowns in the magazine at this time and most of the news is dated from late September. The major outbreak came in October.

Then, in a section called "News In Los Angeles and Vicinity," there is a small article titled "Bara Suffers From Prostration:"
"Theda Bara, who was expecting to complete her fifth picture and be on her way east at the expiration of her six months' stay in Los Angeles, came down with a case of complete prostration two days before the date set for her departure. She was so ill that her reservations on the Salt Lake had to be canceled and her trip postponed until she recovered sufficiently to travel. Besides the nurses and physicians who were called on the case, Lora Bara, the star's sister, had been in constant attendance."

Now, this could be other things but "nurses and physicians" sound similar to the way Lilian Gish described her treatment for the flu. I have not read enough about the pandemic to know if it occurred at all in LA by late September. The general historical comments are that it started out east and moved west. But who knows who she came in contact with. So I'm just wondering if anyone knows about this episode.
An illness started by September 13, 1918; Los Angeles Herald:

"THEDA BARA REPORTED SERIOUSLY ILL Theda Bara, famous film actress, today was reported seriously ill at her home in West Adams street."

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d= ... ra-------1" target="_blank

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Unread post by linquist » Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:09 pm

Thanks for your post.
I did a little digging and a further MPW article said that she had "a nervous breakdown." There was also an article in Exhibitor's Herald (I think) that said she also had a nervous breakdown in July. The timing was remarkable, but this seems to be beyond the scope of this subject.

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Unread post by T0m M » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:33 am

The PBS program American Experience has a documentary, Influenza 1918. It is airing tonight, January 2, 2018, at 9:00 p.m. for members in eastern Ontario and upper New York state, having access to WPBS out of Watertown. Other PBS affiliates may be airing it it at the same time or soon. Check your local PBS schedule. The first chapter (10 minutes) is also currently available online, at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperie ... za/#part01" target="_blank" target="_blank .

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Unread post by silentfilm » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:02 pm

Today's Washington Post has an article on the deadly "Spanish" Flu.

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Unread post by sepiatone » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:21 pm

silentfilm wrote:Today's Washington Post has an article on the deadly "Spanish" Flu.
here's that article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ret ... 73d97096cd" target="_blank

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Unread post by All Darc » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:17 am

15% of the genetic material from 1918 flu virus was decoded, despite there is no living surviving virus. They analyzed the genetic material changes in old tissue sample of patients.
In 1918 science didn't even knew what was a virus, since eletronic microscopes didn't existed yet. They tried a vacine believing it was caused by a bacteria.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperie ... benberger/" target="_blank" target="_blank

The virus killed more young health people than older or childs. This is because the imune system response could be too strong and creates a problem reaction. Something like that happens with dengue fever (dandy fever breakbone fever) here on Brazil, since after the first infection, a new one can be more dangerous than the first, as it's 4 brands of similar virus and antibody memory leads to a stronger reaction in each new infection. So each time someone get dengue it's more dangerous.

A vacine against dengue was developed and it's in final stages of tests, but the vacine it's indicated for people who never got a version of dengue (4 versions can infect and people can 4 dengue up to 4 times), cause the vacine it's not 100% efficient and it can set the imune response in danger way in case a someone get real dengue.
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Unread post by Frederica » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:09 am

linquist wrote:Thanks for your post.
I did a little digging and a further MPW article said that she had "a nervous breakdown." There was also an article in Exhibitor's Herald (I think) that said she also had a nervous breakdown in July. The timing was remarkable, but this seems to be beyond the scope of this subject.
I think there was a reluctance to admit that actors had the flu, at least from what I've seen. I suppose there might have been financial issues involved--if you needed investment in a play or movie, the news that your star was down with a potentially fatal illness might cause problems.
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