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Extant Lois Weber

Unread post by telical » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:01 am

Does someone have a list of extant Lois Weber films?
I've looked a little through the topics with her in it here but
I haven't found a list.

I've just seen "The Hypocrites" and love it. It's more about
philosophy than "moralizing." People have to remember that
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Re: Extant Lois Weber

Unread post by silentfilm » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:13 pm

Some are:
Discontent (1916) with Marie Walcamp
Fine Feathers (1912)
A Japanese Idyll (1913)
The Blot (1921) with Claire Windsor.
A Chapter in Her Life (1923)
Too Wise Wives (1921) with Claire Windsor.

The Blot and Too Wise Wives have been released on DVD.

http://www.milestonefilms.com/movie.php/blot/

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Re: Extant Lois Weber

Unread post by Mike Gebert » Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:25 pm

What's Worth While? is missing a little of its beginning but is otherwise intact. I wish it had been included on the Treasures western set, as it has a great take on east vs. west and male vs. female relations in that era.
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Unread post by Kevin2 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:29 pm

Her short, Suspense is also available on DVD in both the Unseen Cinema and Saved From the Flames collections.
Her short, How Men Propose (1913) was part of The Origins of Cinema collection that also included Too Wise Wives.
Where Are My Children (1916) is included in Treasures III

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Re: Extant Lois Weber

Unread post by missdupont » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:14 pm

SHOES survives. It has recently been shown at the San Francisco Silent Film Festival.

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Unread post by FrankFay » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:55 pm

I've read that THE MARRIAGE CLAUSE survives incomplete. Reportedly what survives is very good.
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Re: Extant Lois Weber

Unread post by silentfilm » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:16 pm

Here's the results of a UCLA Archive search:

[ 1 ]
Blot / Lois Weber Productions ; producer-director-writer, Lois Weber. 1921.
Title has multiple holdings
[ 2 ]
How men propose / Crystal/Universal ; producer, Lois Weber. United States : Crystal/Universal, c1913 ; United States : The Library of Congress, Smithsonian Institution : Distributed exclusively by Image Entertainment, c2000.
Library Location: NON-CIRCULATING RESEARCH AND STUDY CENTER COPY Call Number: DVD177 M Status: Noncirculating
[ 3 ]
[Jewel--tests. Camera tests in 2-color process] / Lois Weber. [1915?]
Library Location: Non-circulating Nitrate Vaults research copy Call Number: M23892 Status: Noncirculating
[ 4 ]
Sensation seekers / Universal Pictures ; presented by Carl Laemmle ; director-continuity, Lois Weber. 1926.
Title has multiple holdings
[ 5 ]
Too wise wives / Famous Players-Lasky ; Lois Weber Productions ; director, scenario, Lois Weber ; story, Lois Weber, Marion Orth. 1921.
Library Location: Non-circulating Nitrate Vaults archival copy Call Number: M23909 Status: Noncirculating
[ 6 ]
Too wise wives / Famous Players-Lasky ; Lois Weber Productions ; director, scenario, Lois Weber ; story, Lois Weber, Marion Orth. United States : Paramount Pictures, c1921 ; United States : The Library of Congress, Smithsonian Institution : Distributed exclusively by Image Entertainment, c2000.
Library Location: NON-CIRCULATING RESEARCH AND STUDY CENTER COPY Call Number: DVD177 M Status: Noncirculating
[ 7 ]
Topsy and Eva / Feature Productions ; production consultant, Myron Selznick ; director, Del Lord ; continuity, Scott Darling ; titles, Dudley Early ; adaptation, Lois Weber. 1927.
Title has multiple holdings
[ 8 ]
What do men want? / Lois Weber Production ; producer-director-writer, Lois Weber. 1921.
Library Location: Non-circulating Nitrate Vaults archival copy Call Number: M23873 Status: Noncirculating
[ 9 ]
Where are my children? / Universal Film Mfg. Co. ; directors, Lois Weber and Phillips Smalley ; scenario, Lois Weber ; story, Lucy Payton and Franklyn Hall. United States : Universal Film Mfg. Co., 1916 ; United States : Distributed exclusively by Image Entertainment : National Film Preservation Foundation, c2007.
Library Location: NON-CIRCULATING RESEARCH AND STUDY CENTER COPY Call Number: DVD4053 M Status: No item data available

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Re: Extant Lois Weber

Unread post by sepiatone » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:43 am

FrankFay wrote:I've read that THE MARRIAGE CLAUSE survives incomplete. Reportedly what survives is very good.
the Library of Congress's copy is listed as a short film and/or short version. Made for Universal, starring Warner Oland.

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Unread post by sepiatone » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:06 am

IT'S NO LAUGHING MATTER(1914), Library of Congress-Incomplete short film, produced by Hobart Bosworth, starring Macklyn Arbuckle.

There's probably more of her short film material but I'd have to peruse this catalog and it takes time. :wink:

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Unread post by sepiatone » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:21 am

FALSE COLORS (also FALSE COLOURS) 1914, Incomplete acetate feature,

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Re: Extant Lois Weber

Unread post by telical » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:49 am

Looks like Lois Weber is due for a boxed set soon.
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Unread post by sepiatone » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:52 am

Telical, wait here's another:

A NATURAL MAN(1915) Vitagraph, directed by Lois Weber, starring Alfred Vosburgh (Library of Congress). She's seemingly well represented at the LOC.

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Unread post by telical » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:41 pm

Beautiful! Something for the boxed-set booklet!
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Lois Weber- Her Ashes, and Memoir, Missing, Too

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Later years and death
In November 1939, Weber was admitted to Good Samaritan Hospital in critical condition, suffering from a stomach ailment that had afflicted her for years. Almost two weeks later, Weber died penniless on Monday, November 13, 1939, of a bleeding ulcer, with her younger sister Ethel Howland and friends Frances Marion and Veda Terry at her bedside. Her death was largely overlooked, with her Variety obituary only two brief paragraphs long, and a brief mention in the Los Angeles Examiner. Gossip columnist Hedda Hopper contributed a more substantial tribute in The Los Angeles Times.
On Friday, November 17, 1939, more than 300 attended Weber's funeral, which was paid for by Frances Marion. After the funeral, Weber was cremated at the Los Angeles Crematory and the location of her remains are unknown.
Weber wrote a memoir, The End of the Circle, which was to have been published shortly before her death, but ultimately was not, despite the efforts of her sister, Ethel Howland, and was later stolen in the 1970s....
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WHAT YEARS WOULD THESE PHOTOS (Weber, Weber,Smalley) HAVE BEEN ISSUED?
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Unread post by FrankFay » Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:15 pm

FrankFay wrote:I've read that THE MARRIAGE CLAUSE survives incomplete. Reportedly what survives is very good.

I should have updated this - I saw what remains - it's a 2 reel cutdown of the feature, and because of that it was hard to follow the plot even with a printed summary. The visual quality is also rather dupey, but it must have been a very handsome production. It's a message story as usual handled in a less didactic manner than her earlier films (in as far as I can tell from this cut version) and both Billie Dove and Francis X Bushman look great.

There's a plot outline in this article: http://www.frameworkonline.com/Issue52/521stamp.html" target="_blank
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Unread post by syd » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:29 pm

The Blot depicted starvation.
That's a subject that's not show in movies
often. When it is the characters
are usually homeless or downtrodden.
This movie depicts the starving as your
next door neighbors in a middle class com-
munity who are too proud to tell anyone.

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syd wrote:The Blot depicted starvation.
That's a subject that's not show in movies
often. When it is the characters
are usually homeless or downtrodden.
This movie depicts the starving as your
next door neighbors in a middle class com-
munity who are too proud to tell anyone.
It was also an indictment of colleges who hired professors to teach the sons of the wealthy, but didn't pay them enough to keep them out of poverty.
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Unread post by silentfilm » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:49 pm

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Billie Dove and Francis X. Bushman in The Marriage Clause.

Since Weber left Universal around the end of 1919, I suspect that the postcard is from before then.

I recently got this still of Hobart Bosworth's The Traitor (1914). Unfortunately, Bosworth is not in the photo.

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According to the IMDB, the film was quickly withdrawn after release. Does anybody know the story behind this?

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Unread post by Brooksie » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:16 pm

silentfilm wrote:According to the IMDB, the film was quickly withdrawn after release. Does anybody know the story behind this?
Interesting question. This film is a genuine mystery; if you didn't have that photo, I'd have been tempted to argue that it never existed.

It's almost impossible to find in original sources. I found one record of a single showing at Chicago's Ziegfeld Theatre in November 1914, on the same bill as Bosworth's The Country Mouse, and Selig's one-reeler The Day of the Dog.

The only other mention confirmed that The Traitor was a one-reeler. Other than that - nothing. No mention as a 'coming attraction', or anything like that.

The best I can suggest is that it was a cutdown of an existing Bosworth film. Perhaps your picture will help solve the mystery.

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Unread post by grimmfo » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:04 pm

The New York Public Library has
Too Wise Wives
Suspense
Japanese Idyll
Fine Feathers
The Dumb Girl of Portici
on 16mm
The Blot and Hyprocrites they have on DVD

As it turns out (before I saw this thread), I requested them for viewing and hope to do so early next week.
( I Saw Vocally Impaired Girl last year and was amazed how good it was. I want to see if I'm still amazed a second time.)

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Unread post by drednm » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:32 pm

Although Weber may have done some work on Topsy and Eva as director and on the adaptation of the play and musical, she gets no on-screen credit (nor does Griffith). Does anyone really know what Weber and Griffith may have done of this film?

Credits are: Director is Del Lord, Continuity is by Scott Darling, Titles by Dudley Early, and something called a Comedy Constructor credited to Clarence Hennecke (one of the original Keystone Kops). There is a "based on the play by Catherine Chisholm Cushing" credit.
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Unread post by telical » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:48 am

Hop - The Devil's Brew (1916) is presumed lost, it seems.

This is now the top of the list of my most wanted to see lost films.

She put a lot of deeper and universal meaning in one of her films
against abortion (Where are My Children). I can only imagine what
she could do with this theme.
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Unread post by Brooksie » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:15 pm

Another I just came across is Sunshine Molly (1915), which is held by the Library of Congress. It sounds atypically cheerful for a Weber film. As with Hop - The Devil's Brew, it stars Weber herself.

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Would be nice to get some of these released.
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Unread post by Louis Pelletier » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:00 am

Film historian Shelley Stamp has compiled a very useful Weber filmography. It is available on the website of the Women Film Pioneers project:

https://wfpp.cdrs.columbia.edu/pioneer/ccp-lois-weber/

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Link to an announcement that Milestone will release "Shoes" (score by Donald Sosin) and "The Dumb Girl of Portici" (score by John Sweeney) on DVD/Blu-Ray this year. http://loisweber.net/index.html" target="_blank

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Clem Dickey wrote:Link to an announcement that Milestone will release "Shoes" (score by Donald Sosin) and "The Dumb Girl of Portici" (score by John Sweeney) on DVD/Blu-Ray this year. http://loisweber.net/index.html" target="_blank" target="_blank

Just shot a bonus feature for a bonus feature for SHOES with the wonderful Richard Koszarski this weekend. :D
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