"Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

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"Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by ToinenTarina » Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:56 pm

I'm trying to find the short "Robert & Bertram" (aka "Robert & Beltram") directed by Max Mack, but can't seem to locate anything beyond its IMDB and Wikipedia pages.

Does anyone know if this still exists, and if it is available to the public?

Here's the wiki page, incidentally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_an ... 1915_film)

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Re: "Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by Connoisseur » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:50 am

I think the Filmmuseum in Munich has a print...

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Re: "Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by andybenz » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:40 am

According to the "Lost Films" website the film is lost.
https://www.lost-films.eu/films/show/id/90" target="_blank
The German film database "FIlmportal" only names Friedrich-Wilhelm-Murnau-Stiftung as the rights holder.
https://www.filmportal.de/node/32437/av ... h%20analog" target="_blank

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Re: "Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by Ann Harding » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:28 am

Robert und Bertram oder Die lustigen Vagabunden exists. I saw it at a Lubitsch retrospective at the CF in 2010. Lubitsch played in it. I found the review I wrote at the time: " This German comedy from the 10s is nothing spectacular. It's a
routine picture where Lubitsch plays a supporting part. F. Bonn and E. Burg play a couple of thieves at the beginning of the XIXth century. The only good point is that the film was shot in a medieval town. Lubitsch appears in the last 10 min of this 3-reel comedy. He tries to stop the two thieves without success. His appearance looks like a cameo. "
In the original CF program, it says that the titles are in Russian. Actually I can't remember the language of the titles.
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Re: "Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by andybenz » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:17 pm

Good news! Maybe the Murnau-Stiftung as rights holder knows about the source of the print.

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Re: "Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by ToinenTarina » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:50 am

Thank you for the information, especially Ann Harding, good to hear it exists!

I suppose the best hope for a release/screening might be as part of a Lubitsch package? (From the sounds of it, his participation is the most notable aspect of the film.)

Pardon my ignorance but what does "CF" stand for?

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Re: "Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by silentfilm » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:35 pm

I believe that CF is the Cinémathèque Française in Paris.

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Re: "Robert & Bertram/Beltram" by Max Mack (1915)

Unread post by Connoisseur » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:13 am

I actually saw it in the Filmmuseum München and my notes tell me that it seemed to be a print they own themselves

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