SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

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SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

Unread post by Harlowgold » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:08 pm

I was startled to learn the 1924 silent SECOND YOUTH starring Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne exists at the Library of Congress and elsewhere, has anyone seen it, it appears to be a "real" 20's comedy with it's John Held Jr publicity art. Is Lynn the leading lady or merely featured - she appears oddly low billed on it. Image

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Unread post by drednm » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:22 pm

Motion Picture Magazine review doesn't even mention Fontanne.
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Re: SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

Unread post by Harold Aherne » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:31 pm

Mimi Palmeri (a.k.a. Mona Palma) is the leading lady. Lunt and Fontanne had been teamed in only one Broadway engagement prior to the film being produced, a brief 1923 revival of Sweet Nell of Old Drury, and it wasn't until after the film's release that they made a big splash in The Guardsman.

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Unread post by drednm » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:37 pm

Several blurbs mention Fontanne as "joining the cast" toplined by Alfred Lunt. There's no mention they are even married, though they had been since 1922. She's mentioned as the star of the play "Dulcy." It was also Fontanne's first film role.
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A Dulcy Crib Sheet

Unread post by JFK » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:03 pm

CLICK DUST JACKET TO READ THE PUBLISHED PLAY
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The play - inspired by an F P A character -involved 3 future Pulitzer winners, and the published version (1st image) had an intro by the two-Pulitzered Booth Tarkington.
(The doomed Gregory Kelly - Ruth Gordon's 1st spouse, and Louise Brooks' Show Off co-star- had acted in 3 Tarkington plays)
Elliott Nugent - who later appeared in the Davies film version and Lux soap broadcast - became a playwright (teamed with both his dad and James Thurber) and film director.
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Dulcy
Frazee Theatre, (8/13/1921 - 3/11/1922)
Written by George S. Kaufman and Marc Connelly
Staged by Howard Lindsay
Cast
George Alison..........Blair Patterson
Wallis Clark.............C. Rogers Forbes
Gilbert Douglas.........Schuyler Van Dyck
Lynn Fontanne..........Dulcinea
Gregory Kelly............William Parker
Norma Lee...............Angela Forbes
Harry Lillford............Henry
Howard Lindsay.........Vincent Leach
Elliott Nugent............Tom Starrett
Constance Pelissier......Mrs. Forbes
John Westley............Gordon Smith

CLICK TO HEAR THE RADIO BROADCASTS
Lux 10 28 1935 Dulcy with ZaSu Pitts, Gene Lockhart
Lux 3 29 1937 Cecil B. DeMille Elsa Maxwell Hedda Hopper George Burns, Gracie Allen,
and from the play's original cast, Elliott Nugent Howard Lindsay Norma Lee Wallis Clark

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Re: SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

Unread post by BenModel » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:16 pm

LoC print has foreign intertitles. Anyone know if © was renewed on this one?

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Re: SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

Unread post by Harold Aherne » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:58 pm

BenModel wrote:LoC print has foreign intertitles. Anyone know if © was renewed on this one?

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No renewal found in the 1951 and 1952 copyright catalogues. Eligible period of renewal would have been March 1951-March 1952. The underlying novel was published in 1917, so it should be PD as well.

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Unread post by boblipton » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:03 pm

Might we have a Kickstarter?

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Re: SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

Unread post by ajabrams » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:18 pm

Lunt and Fontanne had been teamed in only one Broadway engagement prior to the film being produced, a brief 1923 revival of Sweet Nell of Old Drury,
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Or as British comedian Douglas Byng called it : "Sweet Smell of Old Brewery."

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Unread post by Danny Burk » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:52 pm

boblipton wrote:Might we have a Kickstarter?

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Sounds like a worthwhile project, which I think would get a lot of support here.

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Unread post by drednm » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:04 pm

Jobyna Howland!
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Re: SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

Unread post by Dean Thompson » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:51 pm

Second Youth isn't mentioned in either of the two biographies I have of the couple. Imagine that: (relatively) undiscovered Lunt and Fontanne. I sense growing excitement here. If there's a kickstarter in the offing, I'm definitely in.

PS: For those of you who haven't seen L&F in The Guardsman (1931), it's a jewel.

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Unread post by sepiatone » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:02 pm

Would love to see it. I always thought it was an MGM donation, but their(LB Mayer's) donations were to George Eastman. MGM would've inherited this from Goldwyn Pictures just about the time of the '24 merger.

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Unread post by drednm » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:19 pm

sepiatone wrote:Would love to see it. I always thought it was an MGM donation, but their(LB Mayer's) donations were to George Eastman. MGM would've inherited this from Goldwyn Pictures just about the time of the '24 merger.
If as Ben notes the intertitles are not in English, it doesn't seem like anything we'll see soon....
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Re: SECOND YOUTH (1924) The Lunt & Fontanne Silent

Unread post by boblipton » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:27 pm

drednm wrote:
sepiatone wrote:Would love to see it. I always thought it was an MGM donation, but their(LB Mayer's) donations were to George Eastman. MGM would've inherited this from Goldwyn Pictures just about the time of the '24 merger.
If as Ben notes the intertitles are not in English, it doesn't seem like anything we'll see soon....
Perhaps. However, the poster notes Goldwyn/Cosmopolitan, so censor records should exist somewhere for people who know how to research such things.

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Unread post by oldposterho » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:17 pm

Subtitled translations of the non-English title cards would not be a deal killer for me, nor would replaced titles with the translations only. I'd even volunteer to help the process as I know it would be a big job, having done 40 of the buggers for a 12 minute Harry Carey western I'm working on.

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Unread post by Harlowgold » Fri May 11, 2018 1:38 pm

Danny Burk wrote:
boblipton wrote:Might we have a Kickstarter?

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Sounds like a worthwhile project, which I think would get a lot of support here.
I don't know anything about launching a kickstarter program - or "rescuing" a film from the LOC but if anyone wants to do the project, by all means please do so.

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Unread post by WaverBoy » Sun May 13, 2018 1:02 pm

BenModel wrote:LoC print has foreign intertitles. Anyone know if © was renewed on this one?

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If you Kickstart this, I'm an instant backer, don't even need to add water.

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