Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

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Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

Unread post by Frederica » Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:52 pm

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Unread post by Penfold » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:03 pm

Have you seen Asquith's Shooting Stars, where the 'star' is led away, bleeding from such an encounter???
I could use some digital restoration myself...

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Unread post by Frederica » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:08 pm

Penfold wrote:Have you seen Asquith's Shooting Stars, where the 'star' is led away, bleeding from such an encounter???
I haven't. (Scribble, scribble.) Now added to my list. What was the star kissing, a condor?
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Unread post by missdupont » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:45 pm

I don't remember the star kissing the bird, but this is an entertaining, dark, filmmaking backstory, with a strong influence of German expressionism.

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Unread post by Chris Snowden » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:06 pm

I wonder if this was how Billie Ritchie's mishap with the ostrich got started.
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Unread post by Penfold » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:35 pm

Frederica wrote:
Penfold wrote:Have you seen Asquith's Shooting Stars, where the 'star' is led away, bleeding from such an encounter???
I haven't. (Scribble, scribble.) Now added to my list. What was the star kissing, a condor?
No, a pigeon-type bird (c. Richie Benaud), I'm guessing a dove; it's the opening sequence of the film; Annette Benson, in a vignetted shot, surrounded by a lowet bough; in her hands the bird, which she kisses Gishlike; the ungrateful avian pecks her, she goes mad, and the shot pulls out to reveal that we are on the set of a ludicrous British-made western....Annette is led away; such is her popularity on-set that the lighting electrician decorates the bird with a cardboard medal.....
It's a fabulous film, the equal of his Cottage on Dartmoor or Underground....though it was actually directed by AV Bramble, Asquith wrote it and I believe learnt his directing during the making of this film.
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Unread post by greta de groat » Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:40 pm

Did i just see Dolores Costello kissing a bird?

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Unread post by Derwiddian » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:58 pm

Just saw Mae Busch kiss a bird in the May 1915 Keystone A Human Hound's Triumph. It immediately reminded me of this vital thread. Was this the first bird kiss on film? My guess is not: Keystone was probably parodying something. Does anyone know what?

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Unread post by Derwiddian » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:24 am

As the aspiring Dean of the Institute of Bird-Kiss Spotters, I would draw attention to Marguerite Clark in Snow White, Christmas 1916. Nobody can convince me that this wasn't the actual cause of Snow White's near-death experience.

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Unread post by gjohnson » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:26 am

I like Mary Pickford's reminiscence over her clashes with Griffith.
"I wasn't one of his simpering bird-kissing actresses..."

Such a feisty gal. And now I'm sure someone is going to dig up
a clip of Mary kissing a bird and shatter my illusions.

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Unread post by Harlett O'Dowd » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:59 am

Derwiddian wrote:As the aspiring Dean of the Institute of Bird-Kiss Spotters, I would draw attention to Marguerite Clark in Snow White, Christmas 1916. Nobody can convince me that this wasn't the actual cause of Snow White's near-death experience.
IIRC, the animated Prince and/or SW do some bird kissing during "One Song."

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Unread post by Derwiddian » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:30 am

Mary Pickford seems to have kissed a bird in Stella Maris. However, her superiority over other actresses of the era was demonstrated by 1) not getting involved with the bird; 2) doing it in the private confines of her own corporation and not for D.W. Griffith; and 3) not simpering while she did it.

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Unread post by drednm » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:35 am

Didn't Jane Darwell kiss birds in Mary Poppins?
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Unread post by Jim Roots » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:51 am

drednm wrote:Didn't Jane Darwell kiss birds in Mary Poppins?
Yes, but none of us are going to be jealous of those birds...

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Unread post by drednm » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:14 am

LOL.... poor old Miss Darwell....

how about Burt Lancaster in Alcatraz?

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Unread post by CoffeeDan » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:00 am

Just found a picture of Betty Bronson makin' nice with a birdie in a 1925 issue of Liberty, probably around the time when ARE PARENTS PEOPLE? was released.

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Unread post by T0m M » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:30 am

The mostly likely candidate for bird kissing would seem to be Nell Shipman, given her penchant for nuzzling animals. Strangely, I don't ever recall seeing her doing such a scene with a bird, but then maybe she preferred four legged critters. I recall my trepidation during the scene from Back to God's Country, wondering if she was going to cuddle the porcupine that strolled up the blanket, while she was sitting in bed.

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Unread post by boblipton » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:07 pm

Bird Kissing just turned up at the Cruel & Unusual Comedy Show at New York's Museum of Modern Art -- running through this weekend. In TIME FLIES, Lupino Lane kisses a pigeon

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Unread post by missdupont » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:08 am

Just saw Henry and Lillian's bird kissing sequence in BIRTH.

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Unread post by Rick Lanham » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:08 am

The Last Days Of Pompeii (1913 Italy)

Actress Fernanda Negri Pouget, playing blind-flower-girl-slave Nidia nuzzles a bird (a pigeon?) at pool-side.
Being blind, she can't really kiss the bird on its beak, but at least she finds the right end.

Later, a Sorceress (!) cuddles up to her just-deceased large lizard.
It was so good for spells too!! I couldn't find the lizard-kissing thread, so I report that here.

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Unread post by Arndt » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:42 am

"I kissed a bird. I liked i-it..."
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Unread post by boblipton » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:48 am

Rick Lanham wrote:The Last Days Of Pompeii (1913 Italy)

Actress Fernanda Negri Pouget, playing blind-flower-girl-slave Nidia nuzzles a bird (a pigeon?) at pool-side.
Being blind, she can't really kiss the bird on its beak, but at least she finds the right end.

Later, a Sorceress (!) cuddles up to her just-deceased large lizard.
It was so good for spells too!! I couldn't find the lizard-kissing thread, so I report that here.

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Unread post by Frederica » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:25 pm

We have some incipient bird-kissing with Thelma Todd on the Movieland Mystery Photo this morning.
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Re: Bird Kissing. It's not just for Lillian Gish.

Unread post by missdupont » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:20 am

More bird kissing. Tonight at the Mary Pickford Institute the 1909 Biograph short showed James Kirkwood kissing a wounded dove, which then Mary Pickford kisses twice, before kissing him.

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Unread post by missdupont » Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:22 am

It was in TENDER HEARTS.

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Unread post by Ed Watz » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:05 pm

No one mentioned Gibson Gowland smothering a sparrow with his lips in BIG closeup from GREED yet?

The only human-animal species smooching in silents more grotesque than that is Larry Semon sucking lips with Snooky (the Chimp, not the Jersey Shore chick) in THE STAR BOARDER (1919).

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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:21 pm

My girlfriend kisses our parrots all the time, I think the African grey headbutted her in the face once, but mostly she escapes unharmed.
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Unread post by Penfold » Fri May 04, 2012 11:15 am

Ed Watz wrote:No one mentioned Gibson Gowland smothering a sparrow with his lips in BIG closeup from GREED yet?

The only human-animal species smooching in silents more grotesque than that is Larry Semon sucking lips with Snooky (the Chimp, not the Jersey Shore chick) in THE STAR BOARDER (1919).

You think ???? You must have missed this, shown at The Giornate in it's Sacile days, late at night. I've left the description untranslated for the faint of heart.......but babelfish is your friend.... http://www.cinetecadelfriuli.org/gcm/ed ... hp?ID=4939
I could use some digital restoration myself...

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Unread post by Frederica » Fri May 04, 2012 11:27 am

Penfold wrote:
Ed Watz wrote: The only human-animal species smooching in silents more grotesque than that is Larry Semon sucking lips with Snooky (the Chimp, not the Jersey Shore chick) in THE STAR BOARDER (1919).
You think ???? You must have missed this, shown at The Giornate in it's Sacile days, late at night. I've left the description untranslated for the faint of heart.......but babelfish is your friend.... http://www.cinetecadelfriuli.org/gcm/ed ... hp?ID=4939
OH.MY.GOD! I'd blanked that one from my mind! Ew!!
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