THE DESERT SONG (1929)

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Unread post by Gaucho » Sun May 24, 2015 7:34 pm

Glad this thread is resurrected.

I just had a Desert Song binge over the last couple of nights and would also like to see the 1929 version released. I didn't expect the '43 version to be so good when all I had read about it previously was that it had been adapted to fit the then-war effort. One of the things that surprised me was how good the additional songs were. Long Live the Night was particularly good as was Gay Parisienne. I even thought the new lyrics to the Riff Song fit he wartime mood better (and was surprised to see they were used in the '53 version. Tonight I'm watching the Nelson Eddy telecast.

Back to the '29 version though, I believe I read somewhere when the 43/53 versions were initially announced that WBA was still working on releasing it. I tried to locate those sources but was unable. Hopefully someone else has information on this.

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Unread post by TerryC » Mon May 25, 2015 10:25 am

One of the Warner Archive podcasts talks about the last two versions coming out, and a mention was made of the 1929 version.

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Unread post by Harlett O'Dowd » Tue May 26, 2015 8:35 am

TerryC wrote:One of the Warner Archive podcasts talks about the last two versions coming out, and a mention was made of the 1929 version.

there's also the two-reel version - THE RED SHADOW (1932) - which may be the most satisfactory version of the lot.

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Unread post by drednm » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:34 am

Here's an update from WAC:

"Once photochemical preservation is completed, a release is likely to follow. However, we have no insight as to the timeline."
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Unread post by bobfells » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:28 pm

The Vitaphone soundtrack to the '29 DESERT SONG is at archive.org. After a few minutes I turned it off.

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Unread post by entredeuxguerres » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:59 pm

bobfells wrote:The Vitaphone soundtrack to the '29 DESERT SONG is at archive.org. After a few minutes I turned it off.

https://archive.org/details/VitaphoneSo ... Collection#" target="_blank" target="_blank
Doesn't seem much point in listening to a soundtrack when the picture itself is available--though image quality leaves much to be desired, audio quality thank God is excellent.

Hope this hypothetical (I'll believe it when I see it) restoration provides the images missing from that long "blackout" during Carlotta King's first number.

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bobfells wrote:The Vitaphone soundtrack to the '29 DESERT SONG is at archive.org. After a few minutes I turned it off.

https://archive.org/details/VitaphoneSo ... Collection#" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
This soundtrack is for the "International Sound Version". I believe that it employed a synchronized score over silent action with the subtitles in the proper language for the country it played. It did have the musical numbers with the English sound, however.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:21 pm

bobfells wrote:The Vitaphone soundtrack to the '29 DESERT SONG is at archive.org. After a few minutes I turned it off.

https://archive.org/details/VitaphoneSo ... Collection#" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
We all have different tastes! To my mind the music of "The Desert Song" featured some of the loveliest music to ever grace a musical comedy. I can never tire of "The Desert Song" itself, "One Alone" and the exciting "Riff Song" to name just a few.

I listened to "The Overture" Vitaphone record and could not help being reminded of a treasure I hold - a filmed record of Will Cade and the Regent Theatre, Melbourne 30 piece cinema orchestra photographed in 1931 playing this very overture. If I can find it - I will place it up on You Tube so those others amongst us may enjoy it. (Watch this space for when I find it!) :D
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Unread post by bobfells » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:41 pm

Donald,

I like the songs too but I was complaining about the sound quality of these particular discs. Here is a radio version from the Screen Guild Theater broadcast live on May 21, 1945 with Dennis Morgan, Francia White, and Bruce Cabot. The show in 30 mins:

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Donald Binks wrote:
bobfells wrote:The Vitaphone soundtrack to the '29 DESERT SONG is at archive.org. After a few minutes I turned it off.

https://archive.org/details/VitaphoneSo ... Collection#" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
We all have different tastes! To my mind the music of "The Desert Song" featured some of the loveliest music to ever grace a musical comedy. I can never tire of "The Desert Song" itself, "One Alone" and the exciting "Riff Song" to name just a few.
The show-stopper, I think, is the "Saber Song." And let me tell you, the GREAT Anna Moffo does not sing it more effectively than Carlotta King; in fact, I prefer Carlotta's more passionate interpretation to Anna's vocally stunning, but rather languid, rendition.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:08 pm

bobfells wrote:Donald,

I like the songs too but I was complaining about the sound quality of these particular discs. Here is a radio version from the Screen Guild Theater broadcast live on May 21, 1945 with Dennis Morgan, Francia White, and Bruce Cabot. The show in 30 mins:

https://archive.org/download/ScreenGuil ... t_Song.mp3" target="_blank" target="_blank
Perhaps the Vitaphone records they were using were old, clapped out ones? I am sure some better may exist and I hope they do and were used in the restoration of the picture.

Thanks for the wireless broadcast recording. I am listening to it as I am typing this up - it seems based on the 1942 picture - I know I shall enjoy it. (I shall add it to the 25 or so other recordings I have of the show! :D )
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Unread post by wich2 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:52 pm

Gentlemen, when you've recovered enough - here's another dose of Red Shadow, twice as long!

https://ia802605.us.archive.org/18/item ... t_Song.mp3" target="_blank" target="_blank

RAILROAD HOUR (aka the Gordon MacRae show), from 1952.
Featuring board-pertinent Francis X. Bushman.
Music in the care of Carmen Dragon and Norman Luboff.

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Unread post by bobfells » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:22 pm

For sooth, thou meanest Francis X. Bushman.
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Unread post by wich2 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:03 pm

Zounds, I do! (I must be under-caffeinated; typo fixed.)

All the time I was writing that, I kept thinking of Jed & Granny's worship of him in THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES: "Francis X. Bush-man!"

Fascinating life, with many odd highs and lows, that man had...

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What is "photochemical preservation" ?
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Unread post by entredeuxguerres » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:53 am

drednm wrote:What is "photochemical preservation" ?
That term is less enigmatic than their use of "likely" to describe their intentions.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:18 pm

I know you have been clamouring for it - and now, after much searching, re-recording, uploading and other what have you - here at long last - it is!



This is a short subject film made in 1931 by F.W. Thring's "Efftee Pictures" of Will Cade and the Regent Theatre, Melbourne (Oz) cinema orchestra. "The Desert Song" was quite a popular musical and the orchestra often featured music from it in their overtures.

The Regent Theatre opened in March 1929 and Will Cade came from Adelaide to conduct the orchestra there about six months later. He stayed until 1936 when he returned to Adelaide to form the Adelaide Symphony Orchestra which which he stayed until his retirement.

The orchestra at the Regent was immensely popular and my father often remarked that if the film was no good, he could just put his head back and listen to the beautiful music.

The orchestra rose up from the pit on a lift twice daily, playing the overture and then accompanying stage acts before also accompanying films before talkies took over completely in 1930.

An orchestra and organ were still a feature of the entertainment at the Regent before the films, until the early 1950's - although the size of the orchestra had been cut down quite a bit from it's original 30 players. Television had come. The Wurlitzer organ continued until 1970 when the theatre closed.

The Regent sat in the doldrums, empty and forlorn until 1996 when, after a massive restoration costing $25 million it re-opened its doors. Not so much for films - but more for the presentation of musicals. A new Wurlitzer organ was installed and is occasionally played.
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I can't open it, Donald.
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Unread post by entredeuxguerres » Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:21 pm

bobfells wrote:I can't open it, Donald.
Try again--it's wonderful! (And with a mascot I like as much Leo.)

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:02 am

Thank you for that - it makes the whole exercise worthwhile.

I shall have to raid my archives and see if I can put up some more musical gems and whatnot I have from the early talkie period in Oz
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Efftee Pictures. Try As I might, my eyes made that out as Effete Pictures the first three times I looked at that. ;-) Really great to see this. Thanks for posting.

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Unread post by entredeuxguerres » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:17 pm

Bob Birchard wrote:Efftee Pictures. Try As I might, my eyes made that out as Effete Pictures the first three times I looked at that. ;-)
So did I! But how efftees relate to koalas remains a mystery.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:12 pm

"Efftee Pictures" takes it's name from the initials of the owner F.W. Thring. He died unexpectedly in 1936 and the company folded upon his death. They were in business for only 5 years. Thring decided to use a koala in his logo whereas Cinesound formed in 1932 used a kangaroo. I suppose the use of animals in logos started with Goldwyn.
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Donald Binks wrote:"Efftee Pictures" takes it's name from the initials of the owner F.W. Thring. He died unexpectedly in 1936 and the company folded upon his death. They were in business for only 5 years. Thring decided to use a koala in his logo whereas Cinesound formed in 1932 used a kangaroo. I suppose the use of animals in logos started with Goldwyn.


The Nordisk/Great Northern polar bear logo goes back to around 1906 according to their website--I'd post a picture but I'm on my iPad and can't seem to easily find one.

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Let's not forget the Pathe brothers and their noble chicken.

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oldposterho wrote:Let's not forget the Pathe brothers and their noble chicken.
You dare to call that magnificent Cock a chicken?

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entredeuxguerres wrote:
oldposterho wrote:Let's not forget the Pathe brothers and their noble chicken.
You dare to call that magnificent Cock a chicken?

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Thank you for debunking that travesty. Chicken, indeed!

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Isn't that cockerel?
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Unread post by Harlett O'Dowd » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:45 pm

Donald Binks wrote:I know you have been clamouring for it - and now, after much searching, re-recording, uploading and other what have you - here at long last - it is!


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Huzzah! You win the internet!

Thank you so much - and that koala is adorable. Did it have a name?

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:36 pm

Thank you so much - and that koala is adorable. Did it have a name?
That I can't tell you I'm, afraid - but I would suggest "Kuddles the Koala". :D
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