THE DESERT SONG (1929)

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Unread post by entredeuxguerres » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:21 pm

drednm wrote:Isn't that cockerel?
Definitely not! Because "Mature male chickens less than one year old are called cockerels. The term "rooster" originates in the United States,[1] and the term is widely used throughout North America, as well as Australia and New Zealand.[2] The older terms "cock" or "cockerel", the latter denoting a young cock, are used in the United Kingdom and Ireland.[3]" (Wiki)

I thought the term was merely Old English for cock; now I know better. But my Yale Shakespeares taught me long ago what a capon was. (Which Pathe's prize specimen clearly isn't!)

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THE DESERT SONG (1929)

Unread post by earlytalkiebuffRob » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:58 pm

I was very pleased to catch up with this film the other day, though alarmed at the quality of the copy (on YT). Are there any better ones known to exist?

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Unread post by Ray Faiola » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:43 pm

Looks like an original 16mm print. Can't say as much for the telecine and video dubbing.
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Unread post by Richard Finegan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:18 am

THE DESERT SONG (1929) is scheduled to be shown on TCM on August 2, 2018.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:57 pm

Richard Finegan wrote:THE DESERT SONG (1929) is scheduled to be shown on TCM on August 2, 2018.
I have had word that the above film is not in programme schedules for TCM this August. Has a broadcast of it been cancelled yet again?
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Unread post by silentfilm » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:47 pm

Yes, it is no longer on the schedule for August 2nd.

http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.html? ... 2018-08-02

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:31 pm

silentfilm wrote:Yes, it is no longer on the schedule for August 2nd.

http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.html? ... 2018-08-02
That's the second time it has been pulled!

Wotzahappenin'? :!:
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Unread post by Richard Finegan » Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:05 am

Donald Binks wrote:
silentfilm wrote:Yes, it is no longer on the schedule for August 2nd.

http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.html? ... 2018-08-02
That's the second time it has been pulled!...
Disappointed, but not surprised. But that is exactly why I worded my original post as I did: Almost expecting this, I wrote "scheduled" not "it will be shown".

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Unread post by bradleyem » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:10 am

I offer a few words about TCM and "The Desert Song" (separately and together) in my latest blog post at earlysoundguy.com:

https://earlysoundguy.com/2018/07/29/tc ... ng-and-me/" target="_blank

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bradleyem wrote:I offer a few words about TCM and "The Desert Song" (separately and together) in my latest balog post at earlysoundguy.com:

https://earlysoundguy.com/2018/07/29/tc ... ng-and-me/" target="_blank" target="_blank
Ed, I enjoyed your essay very much. As a TCM fan I date back to its TNT days in the late 80s. By now,with few exceptions, I've seen just about everything I've ever been interested in seeing and recorded off the air those I wanted to keep. I rarely watch it these days and I don't buy into the TCM merchandising. But they make factual errors in their bios and film summaries, i.e., Leslie Arliss is NOT the son of George and Florence Arliss. I thought that particular bit of misinformation was spiked years ago in reference works but it lives on at TCM. But beyond the minor carping, the TCM people do a good job of appealing to the various generations they must satisfy. I've also learned that just because TCM is showing a rare film doesn't mean they have secured a restored print. Too often the edition aired is the same ratty looking version that's been circulating in the "grey market" for years. The 1929 DESERT SONG is a good example. If TCM intended to show the same edition that can be found on YT, dropping it from the schedule is no loss. And it's not as though we can go other other vintage film stations to see what we are seeking. TCM is the only game in town but it performs as though the "competition" is breathing down its neck. I have no complaints.
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Unread post by boblipton » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:20 am

C’mon, Bob, Halliwell made that mistake.

And the only way to stay on your toes when you have no competition is to act as if you do.

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Unread post by bobfells » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:30 am

boblipton wrote:C’mon, Bob, Halliwell made that mistake.

And the only way to stay on your toes when you have no competition is to act as if you do.

Bob
I think Halliwell has since corrected itself in newer editions. Maybe not. I contacted them some years ago, not that they paid attention. As for competition, that's my point - TCM seems to behave as if we can turn to other stations. TCM's real competition is that we don't have to watch anything. At least I don't. With these posts I have probably spent more time writing about TCM than I have spent watching it in the last year. I kid you not. Life's too short to sit on our rears watching other people's work.
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Unread post by brendangcarroll » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:11 pm

If you guys think TCM is bad in America, you should try the European version.

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Unread post by Donald Binks » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:44 pm

One has to count oneself lucky I suppose that one has been given the opportunity to view the 1943 version which had been embargoed for donkey's years.

I understand that the Warner Bros. are "doing up" the 1929 version and that there is a possibility that it too might become available one day. Hope I live long enough to see it! :D
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Unread post by boblipton » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:53 pm

Donald Binks wrote:One has to count oneself lucky I suppose that one has been given the opportunity to view the 1943 version which had been embargoed for donkey's years.

I understand that the Warner Bros. are "doing up" the 1929 version and that there is a possibility that it too might become available one day. Hope I live long enough to see it! :D
We lived long enough to see King of Jazz.

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Unread post by bradleyem » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:33 pm

bobfells wrote:
bradleyem wrote:I offer a few words about TCM and "The Desert Song" (separately and together) in my latest balog post at earlysoundguy.com:

https://earlysoundguy.com/2018/07/29/tc ... ng-and-me/" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Ed, I enjoyed your essay very much. As a TCM fan I date back to its TNT days in the late 80s. By now,with few exceptions, I've seen just about everything I've ever been interested in seeing and recorded off the air those I wanted to keep. I rarely watch it these days and I don't buy into the TCM merchandising. But they make factual errors in their bios and film summaries, i.e., Leslie Arliss is NOT the son of George and Florence Arliss. I thought that particular bit of misinformation was spiked years ago in reference works but it lives on at TCM. But beyond the minor carping, the TCM people do a good job of appealing to the various generations they must satisfy. I've also learned that just because TCM is showing a rare film doesn't mean they have secured a restored print. Too often the edition aired is the same ratty looking version that's been circulating in the "grey market" for years. The 1929 DESERT SONG is a good example. If TCM intended to show the same edition that can be found on YT, dropping it from the schedule is no loss. And it's not as though we can go other other vintage film stations to see what we are seeking. TCM is the only game in town but it performs as though the "competition" is breathing down its neck. I have no complaints.
Thanks for the nice comments -- I truly enjoy TCM as well.

Re TNT -- I am planning a post soon about those halcyon days of the early TNT -- which is when we really started to see the rarities hauled out of the MGM/WB/RKO vaults. Seeing, say, THE SHOW OF SHOWS actually appear in my local TV listings guide was enough to make me swoon!

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