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Please identify this font.

Unread post by Darren Nemeth » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:03 am

I am going to publish a book related to a Lon Chaney film but need to match a font.

Can someone help me identify this?

WhatTheFont keeps matching me with modern fonts in the $15 to $40 range. This one is over 120 years old and should be a free download.

I have retouched 5 books so far this summer, all dating the years 1896, 1898 and 1926. All have this same exact font. It is NOT New Times Roman.

Can anyone help?

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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:49 am

Old Times Roman?

OK, I'll show myself out now....

(Monotype Garamond was the closest I could come to on an old fonts page, but it's not exactly the same. The "a" has the same little flip up at the back, and the "g" is similar, but somehow a little squatter.)

Bembo looks a bit similar as well, but again, the "g" doesn't have the same serif (I like to call that one a "ponytail").
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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:05 am

More googling...Baskerville is the closest with the serifs, but a cursory search just shows modern interpretations of it, where the letters look a little more....elegant, for lack of a better word. It goes back to the 1750s, so maybe searching for more examples will do the trick.
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Unread post by Spiny Norman » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:50 am

If the worst come to the worst, you can actually create your own fonts... or recreate them...
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Unread post by CoffeeDan » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:01 am

I'm guessing Caslon Old Style, a pretty common font in the late 19th/early 20th century . . .

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Unread post by Rick Lanham » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:36 am

https://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Caslon/
Caslon example:
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Those little smears around characters are from manipulating the image size, quality, etc.

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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:41 am

Close, but the serifs need to be a little saucier.
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Unread post by Mike Gebert » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:55 am

To me it looks more like some version of Century, the font of 50s textbooks and childrens' books (but dating back to 1894). Thing I just learned: the Supreme Court requires briefs to be set in Century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_type_family
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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:57 am

Mike Gebert wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:55 am
To me it looks more like some version of Century, the font of 50s textbooks and childrens' books (but dating back to 1894). Thing I just learned: the Supreme Court requires briefs to be set in Century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_type_family
Specifically "Century Schoolbook" where the serifs are very similar (looking at "a" and "g", anyway).
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Unread post by Rick Lanham » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:12 am

Century Schoolbook example.
https://fontzone.net/download/century-schoolbook-normal
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Again, it's a little smeary from manipulating, taking a screenshot, etc.

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Unread post by Feufollet » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:24 pm

The wide uppercase letters give this one away: it's one of the many versions of Scotch Roman, an immensely popular face back in the day. Most of L. Frank Baum's Oz books (though not the one from which the current masthead derives) were originally set in Scotch Roman.

As others note, Century Schoolbook has a roughly similar look, though the proportions aren't quite the same. Computer Modern (also available as Latin Modern) is a closer match, though it has a tendency to look a bit spindly on paper. See what you think! :D

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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:15 am

Feufollet wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:24 pm
The wide uppercase letters give this one away: it's one of the many versions of Scotch Roman, an immensely popular face back in the day. Most of L. Frank Baum's Oz books (though not the one from which the current masthead derives) were originally set in Scotch Roman.

As others note, Century Schoolbook has a roughly similar look, though the proportions aren't quite the same. Computer Modern (also available as Latin Modern) is a closer match, though it has a tendency to look a bit spindly on paper. See what you think! :D
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Unread post by Darren Nemeth » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:56 pm

Thank you.

Looks like it is Scotch Roman. 👍

Will order as soon as the Kickstarter reaches the funding goal. Gulp! It is $75. :shock: :shock:
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Unread post by Feufollet » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:48 pm

If you'd like to play around with an open-source variant on the design, and see if it suits your purposes, there's one here:

http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-found ... n/download

It might not be close enough—but then again, it might :)

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