Vinegar Syndrome health concerns

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Vinegar Syndrome health concerns

Unread post by EdibleCamphor » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:13 pm

I was wondering if anyone would know if when I buy old film that has some serious vinegar syndrome (I have found some in truly, awful, awful shape) when I unspool it if it could be a danger to my lungs? I have worn a mask before (just because of the putrid smell) but should I be doing that all the time?
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome health concerns

Unread post by Hamilton's Grandson » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:33 pm

I think if you wear a surgical mask each and every time you handle the film and non-powdered vinyl gloves with good ventilation in the room, you are probably much less at risk then if you don't take these precautions. I read that celluloid film is a combination of sulfuric acid and potassium nitrate, so that certainly can't be good to breath that in for long periods of time.

Last year, I was given 5 short reels from my mom that my grandfather appeared in and one of the 5 reels was a messy, sticky, stinky reel that was probably stage 4 decomposition. 4 of the reels were restored at 16 and 24 fps and are short resume reels that were in stage 1 decomposition and they turned out great. I tried to convince Debbenham to restore what was left the 5th reel, but they said don't bother as not much can be retrieved from the print.

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Re: Vinegar Syndrome health concerns

Unread post by Jack Theakston » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:03 pm

Vinegar syndrome is just that... vinegar. Acetic acid. Although, it can burn in strong concentrations. If it's particularly potent, a face mask will suffice.
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome health concerns

Unread post by Hamilton's Grandson » Tue May 22, 2018 12:28 pm

Will vita film solution reverse vinegar stench from 16 mm film? or a different product is better?
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Re: Vinegar Syndrome health concerns

Unread post by pookybear » Wed May 23, 2018 3:10 pm

NO PRODUCT CAN STOP OR REVERSE VINEGAR SYNDROME!

Okay with the internet shouting out of the way. Vitafilm does claim to cure vinegar syndrome, it fall short of the claim.
However, it does seem to be one of the best film cleaners. It is just amazing how much dirt Vitafilm removes off of films. It will also wash off the built up acids that are on the surface of a film as well. But once again, the process will march forward
and vinegar syndrome will come back some later date.

But as cleaner, I love the stuff.

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Re: Vinegar Syndrome health concerns

Unread post by Hamilton's Grandson » Wed May 23, 2018 6:45 pm

I have a 16 mm that I will be sending to UCLA this summer and will try the vitafilm to see if a little bit of the acetic acid comes off of it to try and reduce some of the vinegar smell, but I understand that the deteoration process has already begun for these materials. I have left the film out in the open indoors after being shipped back to me fed ex ground in a film can from the digital transfer folks and noticed after two days the smell was less, but still an issue.

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