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William Holden

Unread post by Michael O'Regan » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:43 pm

I can't seem to locate any connection, but is there one between the two William Holdens?

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None.
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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:01 pm

Funny, I just watched the 1930 comedy NOT SO DUMB with Marion Davies and William Holden (the first one) last night, and wondered the same thing, but was informed by the Internet that they were not related.

Enjoyed the film despite it's rough soundtrack, and was a bit taken aback by Davies' malaprop "woodpile in the n*****" comment when everyone was looking for billiard balls. That might have been a first for me, hearing the n-word in an early talkie.
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Unread post by boblipton » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:55 pm

They have similar names.

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Unread post by Michael O'Regan » Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:45 pm

boblipton wrote:They have similar names.

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Ah, that's it. I shoulda spotted this straight off.....

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Unread post by drednm » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:23 pm

same for the 2 Kay Hammonds
the 2 Harrison Fords
and the various Sammy (i) Davises
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s.w.a.c. wrote:Funny, I just watched the 1930 comedy NOT SO DUMB with Marion Davies and William Holden (the first one) last night, and wondered the same thing, but was informed by the Internet that they were not related.

Enjoyed the film despite it's rough soundtrack, and was a bit taken aback by Davies' malaprop "woodpile in the n*****" comment when everyone was looking for billiard balls. That might have been a first for me, hearing the n-word in an early talkie.
I haven't seen that film in eleven years, but if I remember anything about it, that line would be it!

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Unread post by rollot24 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:29 am

drednm wrote:same for the 2 Kay Hammonds
the 2 Harrison Fords
and the various Sammy (i) Davises
What about Sammy Davis Sr and Jr????

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and Sammi Davis
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Unread post by ajabrams » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:50 am

Then there's William Boyd and William (Stage) Boyd.
And, pushing the theme a little... Richard Tucker and opera singer Richard Tucker

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Unread post by Einar the Lonely » Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:53 pm

Strangely enough, there are two Rex Ingrams as well.
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Same name, different guys

Unread post by Richard Finegan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:58 am

And
Charles King (singer)
Charles King (western bad guy)

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Unread post by drednm » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:24 am

Harold Goodwin (Keaton's pal)
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Harold Goodwin (British actor)
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Unread post by entredeuxguerres » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:10 am

Richard Finegan wrote:And
Charles King (singer)
Charles King (western bad guy)
And to add further confusion, a jazz player of some sort--as I was dismayed to discover while searching on Amazon for recordings by the first; I gave up in frustration.

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Unread post by Hal Erickson » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:54 am

Charles Farrell (American) Charles Farrell (UK)
Pat O'Brien (star) Pat O'Brien (supporting player)
James Mason (western bad guy) James Mason (UK star)
Gordon Wiles (art director-30s director) Gordon Willes (60s TV director)
Gilbert C. Emery (US bit player) Gilbert Emery (UK actor)
Doris Day (1940s B-pic ingenue) Doris Day (singing superstar)

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Unread post by greta de groat » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:19 am

Billy Gibert (comedian, 1894-1971) and Billy Gilbert (comedian, 1901-1961).

Charlie Hall (comedian), and Charles D. Hall (art director), both are sometimes billed simply as Charles Hall.

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Does it count that Stewart Granger's real name was James Stewart?
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Another Dawn

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Dawn O'Day (actress/dancer in 1933 Vitaphone shorts)
Dawn O'Day (who later changed her name to Anne Shirley)

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Unread post by ajabrams » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:17 pm

Then, of course, there's Bretaigne Windust and...oh well, I guess not!

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Two Starrs

Unread post by Richard Finegan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 pm

Sally Starr (early talkie and 1930's Educational shorts star)
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Sally Starr (1960's Philadelphia TV personality and actress in Three Stooges movie THE OUTLAWS IS COMING!).

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Unread post by Harold Aherne » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:42 am

Anne Sheridan (Paramount ingenue who supported Raymond Griffith in Wedding Bill$)
Ann Sheridan (Paramount ingenue who moved to Warners)

Ruth Taylor (Babe Ruth's co-star in Headin' Home)
Ruth Taylor (Gentlemen Prefer Blondes)

Charley Chase (Roach star) and....well, I'll only say that you need to be careful when doing a Google video search for him.

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Unread post by silentfilm » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:20 pm

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The original Anne Sheridan, with Raymond Griffith in Wedding Bill$ (1927).

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Unread post by drednm » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:41 pm

Robert Ames, the early talkie star who died in 1931.
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Robert Ames, a minor dancer in a couple films.

TCM combines the two with the long-dead Ames credited for both Ziegfeld Girl and An American in Paris
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Ann Todd, the great British star actress
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Ann Todd, the American girl actress.
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Unread post by Wm. Charles Morrow » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:47 pm

Something I always enjoy about the screenings put on by the Silent Clowns group in NYC are the slides shown before the show itself begins, while the audience files into the auditorium. These consist of carefully photographed glass slides from the silent era, mostly advertising new releases -- along with ads, public service announcements, and admonitions such as Ladies Kindly Remove Your Hats. Occasionally there will be slide advertising a film featuring Harrison Ford (1884-1957), and seeing that name up on the screen, in conjunction with a movie from the 1910s or ‘20s, always gets a chuckle from the crowd. And usually you’ll hear someone make a quip along the lines of: “Wow, I knew he’d been around a while, but I had no idea!”
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Unread post by drednm » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:42 am

Peter Graves the American actor
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Peter Graves the British actor
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Unread post by s.w.a.c. » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:45 am

Harold Aherne wrote:Charley Chase (Roach star) and....well, I'll only say that you need to be careful when doing a Google video search for him.
The only other Charley Chase I know of was a host on The Nashville Network...does he have some extracurricular activities of which I was previously unaware?
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Unread post by boblipton » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:22 am

s.w.a.c. wrote:
Harold Aherne wrote:Charley Chase (Roach star) and....well, I'll only say that you need to be careful when doing a Google video search for him.
The only other Charley Chase I know of was a host on The Nashville Network...does he have some extracurricular activities of which I was previously unaware?

Whenever I tried the Site Whose Name Must Not Be Mentioned to see if any of our Charley's Columbia shorts had been posted, there were a lot of the other Charley Chase's pieces in which she isn't wearing shorts.

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Unread post by Ed Watz » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:05 am

Then there's Charley Chase's old boss, Hal Roach (US comedy producer) -- and Hal Roach (Irish comedian)...

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Three Porters

Unread post by Richard Finegan » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:35 am

How about a threesome?

Jean Porter (silent and early talkie actress)
Jean Porter (late 1930's to early 1960's actress, married to Edward Dmytryk)
Jean Porter (Roller Derby skater who appeared in the Oscar-nominated 1949 Paramount "Pacemaker" short ROLLER DERBY GIRL, written and directed by Justin Herman).

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